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Adam T
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posted 14 March 2004 05:53 PM      Profile for Adam T     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Sheila Copps

I was a registration clerk at the Richmond, British Columbia nomination meeting between MP Joe Peschisolido and former MP Raymond Chan. (Chan won).

I can now comment, as a bit of an insider, on Sheila Copps' allegations.

1.Sheila Copps quote was something like "400 of my supporters were challenged". She doesn't say how many of those 400 got to vote. Challenges are very common by scrutineers.

2.I registered about 90 people. I probably had problems with an additional 40 people, and was unable to register them.

3.The most common registration problem was a person had moved and their address had not been updated on the membership list, or vice versa. They joined the party recently, had their new address on the membership list, and had no documentation to back it up.

4.The reasons for challenges were sometimes human error of some form or another: a name in the membership list improperly spelled or something like that. I don't know about in Hamilton, but we had a impartial process to deal with this and the above problem.

5.I was also surprised at the number of people who came to vote who weren't members of the party. Again, Copps just says they were her supporters, that doesnt' mean they were members.

Ujjal Dosanjh
There was a national reporter at the nominating meeting, I won't mention any names, but he said that Ujjal wants to run for the federal Liberals but is being blocked by Christy Clark who goes livid over the idea. I have no idea how credible his information is, but he says its been confirmed at pretty high levels.


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quote:
Ujjal Dosanjh
There was a national reporter at the nominating meeting, I won't mention any names, but he said that Ujjal wants to run for the federal Liberals but is being blocked by Christy Clark who goes livid over the idea. I have no idea how credible his information is, but he says its been confirmed at pretty high levels.

Why would Christy Clark have anything to do with this?? Why would she have any power over federal nomination meetings? This makes no sense to me.

I don't buy it. I still have no reason to believe Ujjal has any desire to run for the Federal Liberals..

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posted 14 March 2004 06:22 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Jesse Hoffman:
Why would Christy Clark have anything to do with this?? Why would she have any power over federal nomination meetings? This makes no sense to me.

Her husband is PM's chief organizer in British Columbia.


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Scott, yes, his name is Mark Marrisen. He is the one who told the reporter that Christy Clark would be livid.

I don't know what other sources the reporter has.

For all I know, Mr. Marrisen is spreading this in the press just to make it seem that the Liberals have the backing of some high profile New Democrats in B.C, just as they did in 1997 and 2000, while Mr. Dosanjh himself may actually know nothing about it.


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quote:
Her husband is PM's chief organizer in British Columbia.

Ahhh ok that makes much more sense.

quote:
For all I know, Mr. Marrisen is spreading this in the press just to make it seem that the Liberals have the backing of some high profile New Democrats in B.C, just as they did in 1997 and 2000, while Mr. Dosanjh himself may actually know nothing about it.

I think that's the most likely scenario...


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Why would Clark be pissed about a potential Dosanjh candidacy? At one point, there was a lot of speculation that Clark planned to run as a federal Liberal in one of the Tri-Cities ridings. The Liberals in New Westminster-Coquitlam have yet to nominate a candidate, and the main contender (Carmen Meretic) looks weak. Maybe Clark doesn't want to see Dosanjh become Martin's Lower Mainland "star candidate" before she gets her name in?

Personally, I don't think Dosanjh will run. Sophia Leung and Wendy Yuan can duke it out for Van-Kingsway to their heart's content; Ian Waddell's taking that seat in the next election, no matter who the Liberal is.


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So I take it Dosanjh isn't even a registered New Democrat anymore...
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Jesse Hoffman
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posted 14 March 2004 06:59 PM      Profile for Jesse Hoffman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Where'd you hear that?
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Adam T
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mijawara

I don't think it's all that complicated, actually. Christy Clark is a very intense person and *hates* New Democrats.


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Exactly, I mean Christy Clark spent 5 years in opposition regarding the NDP and Clark and Dosanjh etc... as archangels of evil. Why would she want to then welcome her worst enemy into the fold at the federal level. It would be like Jack Layton getting Ernie Eves to run as a New Democrat in the federal election. How do you think Howard Hampton would react to that?
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