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posted 28 June 2002 05:03 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Sometimes the truth comes from the most interesting places.


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posted 29 June 2002 10:52 AM      Profile for Apemantus        Edit/Delete Post
Any Labour supporter could tell you that. I am disgusted (and I mean effing throwing up daily disgusted) at the way this supposedly leftwing government is dealing with the immigration issue - two things:

1. IF there is a resurgence of the right, you do NOT deal with it by adopting their attitudes and policies towards immigration, because by so doing, you validate their effing viewpoint. "After all, if a leftwing (caring, sharing, loving) government can be so anti-immigration, then those racist BNP people must have a point"

2. THERE ISN'T AN EFFING PROBLEM! Immigration to the EU has dropped by half in the past decade. Britain has a demographic need for immigration anyway, and desperately needs doctors, nurses, police etc. (ignoring the very valid argument that we should not be stealing such valuable resources from countries that need them more than us - pay the public sector workers more, treat them as more than fodder and hey, presto, more people will be prepared to work)

More to the point, the ACTUAL amount of immigration is negligible but people's perceptions of it are so distorted by the effing media backed up by idiot politicians talking about swamping!! If people knew the facts, they would stop worrying. The job of politicians MUST be to say these are the facts, now what would you like us to do?

In a survey, most Brits thought we take in a 1/4 of world immigration each year - actual figure is 2%. We have one new immigrant each year for every 300 residents.


This xenophobia is abhorrent and more importantly, MISTAKEN. At least if there was a smidgen of truth, I MIGHT understand people's fears, but there isn't a problem.

Blair should have the guts to say that, but his heart is in Thatcher's bosom... always has been always will...

Gordon Brown for PM!

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posted 29 June 2002 11:20 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Apemantus, what makes you think Gord Brown would be better?

Another recent BBC article talked about the dire impact of the teacher shortage in Britain on Jamaica and other former BWI countries - these poorer countries have commendably devoted a large share of their resources to teacher training and education. Britain has been poaching many of the best teachers and head teachers, in particular as role models for black youth in poor urban schools.

Haider's friends across the border in the North-East of Italy, the Northern League regional goernement in the Veneto region, have been running ads in papers in Argentina recruiting folks of VENETIAN origin (no swarthy Southern Italians...) to return to the land their grandparents left in search of "L'America".

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posted 29 June 2002 12:55 PM      Profile for Apemantus        Edit/Delete Post
Most of Gordon Brown's policies have been directed at narrowing the gap between rich and poor, and though many have praised his handling of the economy, he has managed to re-orient the benefits system towards the worst off. He is also untainted by Blair's obsession with the middle classes (they are important electorally, but Labour is meant to be a progressive leftleaning party). Plus, Brown's own background and work ethic is, to my mind, more honest and true Labour than Blair's upper middle class aphilosophical spinning celeb lifestyle.

As for the poaching of teachers, absolutely agree with you - I wish Labour would up public sector pay AND stop doing down public workers, because then more people would consider going into public sector jobs as a career. Stealing essential staff from other countries is unethical, shortsighted and detrimental to them.

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