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robbie_dee
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posted 10 August 2008 05:10 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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MONTREAL - A police patrol in a Montreal park turned ugly Saturday night when an officer opened fire on three young people, killing one man and wounding two others.

An 18-year-old man, identified by his sister as Freddy Alberto Villanueva, died from his wounds in hospital. The other two, an 18 and a 20-year-old, are reported to be in stable condition.

Montreal police say the officers were trying to arrest an individual during a routine police intervention in Henri Bourassa Park in the Montreal district of Montreal North when they were surrounded by a group of about 20 youths. A few individuals allegedly broke away from the group and rushed the officers.

According to police, it was then that one of the officers opened fire.

The officers were not wounded in the incident.

Quebec provincial police are investigating the incident and are interviewing witnesses.

"We do think there are many witnesses, because at that time, around 7 p.m., there were a lot of people in the park or in the surroundings of the park," said Quebec provincial police spokesman Gregory Gomez del Prado. "There were also people who were part of the altercation, and many people playing sports or just sitting in the park."

According to police, there is currently no information on the reasons behind the police intervention and attempted arrest.

"It's too early to say what happened exactly," said Gomez del Prado. "We're talking about the death of a man. It's a major investigation."

Villanueva's sister, Julissa, said in an interview from her home in the Montreal suburb of Laval, that the family is waiting for answers.

"We only know what we see in the news, in the newspapers, that's all," she said, breaking into tears as she spoke about her brother, a student who wanted become a mechanic.


CP via Yahoo News

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posted 10 August 2008 06:42 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The police have admitted that the young people involved were unarmed.

And so should be the police.


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posted 10 August 2008 07:47 PM      Profile for WyldRage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by unionist:
The police have admitted that the young people involved were unarmed.

And so should be the police.


And be beaten by the crowd? Even unarmed they can still do a lot of damage, especially since there was only two cops, and the group was about 10-20. According to the police report, as reported by Radio-canada.ca, they were rushed by the youths and one of them even tried to strangle a policewoman.

At some point, they have to protect themselves.


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posted 10 August 2008 07:49 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Villanueva was shot to death by the cops while trying to impede his older brother's arrest. Dozens of Montrealers marched against police racist violence in late afternoon today. Bonfires were lit later on and a few police cars/fire engines were set ablaze. Riot police have been deployed en masse throughout the North End of Montreal. Source + video clips
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quote:
Originally posted by WyldRage:

And be beaten by the crowd? Even unarmed they can still do a lot of damage, especially since there was only two cops, and the group was about 10-20.


The "group" gathered after the police started firing.

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According to the police report, as reported by Radio-canada.ca, they were rushed by the youths and one of them even tried to strangle a policewoman.

Awww, poor policewoman. How's she doing? Critical? Life support? Breathing heavily?

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At some point, they have to protect themselves.

They should have killed more witnesses? Sorry, don't understand.


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posted 11 August 2008 01:37 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From cbc.ca this morning:

Police officer shot, 2 others injured as riot erupts in Montreal

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"People were apprehended with guns … so we're talking about criminalized people," Lafrenière said.

That word...I do not think it means what you think it means...

Looks like he got it right by accident, however.


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posted 11 August 2008 02:46 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Predictable. People will only take so much police violence before they start rising up and fighting back. I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now, and in many more locations, considering all the tortures and murders carried out by police lately with tasers and guns.
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posted 11 August 2008 02:54 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Montreal Gazette has the full story, not just the police version (someone posted the link in the comments of the CBC story, which is filled with comments by troglodyte douchebags).

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"I can't tell you what they were doing, we don't even know how many (teenagers) there were," said Sgt. Gregory Gomez Del Prado, a spokesperson for the provincial police.

According to Gomez Del Prado, two police officers in a cruiser approached a group of young people gathered in the parking lot behind the Henri Bourassa arena, near Rolland and Pascal just after 7 p.m. Saturday.

Witnesses said police arrived while the group was calmly throwing dice behind the arena, next to a field where children were playing soccer. The witnesses said the police officers singled out Dany Villanueva. They tried to search him and when he resisted, a male officer pushed him to the ground and arrested him, some teens said.


What the hell were the cops doing searching kids for no reason? Some things never change - they did this shit when I was a teenager, too, because they knew that most teenagers don't know their rights and don't know that they can refuse to be searched.

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The SQ would not reveal the reason for the arrest. There were conflicting reports about which officer fired the shots.

Claude Laguerre, who said he was one of the young people involved in the incident, said no one in the group made physical contact with the police officers.

Laguerre said the officers became aggressive within 30 seconds of getting out of their car.

"They didn't ask (our) names, they just got aggressive," said Laguerre, who said the male police officer fired without any warning. He added that after the police officer shot, he continued to point his gun at the group. Laguerre said no one in the group was armed.

Other witnesses said Fredy and about a half-dozen other young people confronted the police to try to separate them from Dany, who later was placed in the back seat of the cruiser. They said he shattered the rear driver's side window with his feet, because his hands were bound.

Neighbours reported hearing three or four gunshots before the group scattered.

"It turned bad," said Kassem Hamad, 22, who identified himself as a close friend of the victims. "The police officer took out her gun without thinking. ... It just happened too fast."


No wonder people are rioting.

[ 11 August 2008: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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posted 11 August 2008 04:31 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Claude Dauphin, vice-president of the Executive Committee responsible for public security, just gave an interview on CBC radio (English). He tried to compare last night's events with the post-game riot at the Bell Centre.

I don't recall police killing any hockey players on that occasion.


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Yeah, but weren't most of the hockey rioters young white guys with money? The kind that hang out on Crescent Street?
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Until you've been swarmed by a bunch of teenage thugs I would keep away from any accusations that the police over reacted.

A few years ago, in downtown Toronto, I was walking home when a bunch of skinheads decided that I was too gay for their liking and swarmed me. Three broken ribs, a dislocated shoulder, two missing teeth and a fractured jaw was my reward and it all happened under a minute.

If it wasn't for the police showing up and saving my gay ass I honestly think they would have killed me. In trying to help me one of the officers received a broken nose and the other was stabbed in the arm. Both officers were women.

I'm in no rush to condemn the police. Until there is a thorough investigation let's keep the rhetoric down to a murmur. If the officer over reacted then throw her ass in jail for murder but if she acted in self defence then so be it.


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posted 11 August 2008 07:21 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Leftyboy, I'm very sorry for the hateful assault you had to suffer. That is awful. But you are not trained to react in this situation, nor are police officers subject to hate crimes. No one is jumping to conclusions, but the evidence in this thread suggests that the police officers were needlessly aggressive and provocative.

And I have to say that an injured police officer is better than a dead kid. Police work is hard and often unforgiving, but this is the kind of situation they are faced with. Police uphold justice. They do not distribute it.


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posted 11 August 2008 08:16 AM      Profile for TemporalHominid   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

the rioters are taking out their anger on emergency responders

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Fire trucks arriving to fight the blazes were pelted with beer bottles, while bus shelters were trashed.

Lafreniere said two police officers and an ambulance technician suffered minor injuries. One of the officers was shot in the leg. The technician was struck in the head with a bottle..

In addition, fire fighters who tried to extinguish burning cars were pelted with stones, three fire trucks were damaged and a fire station had to be evacuated after gasoline was apparently thrown into the station,


the frustration towards the police is understandable. Police forces across the country create fear and mistrust.

I am concerned that violence gets mis-directed to business owners, Emergency responders, city transit.

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posted 11 August 2008 09:59 AM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by leftyboy:
Until you've been swarmed by a bunch of teenage thugs I would keep away from any accusations that the police over reacted.

A few years ago, in downtown Toronto, I was walking home when a bunch of skinheads decided that I was too gay for their liking and swarmed me. Three broken ribs, a dislocated shoulder, two missing teeth and a fractured jaw was my reward and it all happened under a minute.

If it wasn't for the police showing up and saving my gay ass I honestly think they would have killed me. In trying to help me one of the officers received a broken nose and the other was stabbed in the arm. Both officers were women.

I'm in no rush to condemn the police. Until there is a thorough investigation let's keep the rhetoric down to a murmur. If the officer over reacted then throw her ass in jail for murder but if she acted in self defence then so be it.



So what kind of boat do you own? Is the hold big enough for your expected catch?

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posted 11 August 2008 12:24 PM      Profile for leftyboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kropotkin1951:

So what kind of boat do you own? Is the hold big enough for your expected catch?

Fuck You.

You're an asshole. I almost get killed and you make a joke about it. My uncle almost got killed in the very same park (Allan Park) and you think this is funny. Sometimes these kids are violent little pricks sometimes they're not. According to the reports the group were interfering with the police, kicked out a window and one cop was being choked. Nice.

I saw what two officers went through when they saved my ass so yes I tend to be a little bit more open to the idea that she operated in self defence.

Fuck You again you homophobic piece of shit.


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posted 11 August 2008 12:26 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Finally, an eloquent defence of police violence that I can truly relate to!
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posted 11 August 2008 12:40 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I get it now.

Gay bashing is something that happens in Canadian parks way to often. (once would be too often IMO) So therefore cops should shoot to kill any teenagers who don't look like good middle class white kids to preemptively stop gay bashing.

Good theory except it seems to me that many of the gay bashers (at least in Vancouver) seem to look like white middle class boys who come from good homes. Like they would be shot by cops for no reason.

Anyways I hope you can eat some of the catch and don't have to release all of it for being undersized.


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posted 11 August 2008 01:20 PM      Profile for leftyboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
I get it now.

Gay bashing is something that happens in Canadian parks way to often. (once would be too often IMO) So therefore cops should shoot to kill any teenagers who don't look like good middle class white kids to preemptively stop gay bashing.

Good theory except it seems to me that many of the gay bashers (at least in Vancouver) seem to look like white middle class boys who come from good homes. Like they would be shot by cops for no reason.

Anyways I hope you can eat some of the catch and don't have to release all of it for being undersized.


Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Try being Jamaican and gay and see what happens within your own community. My former partner was beaten and had lye poured on him by his own fucking family.

A Turkish friend, who is gay as well, is teaching English in Turkey and has told me horror story after horror story about gays being beaten, being sodomised with everything from broom handles to bottles causing massive internal bleeding and being killed. Yet he stays in Istanbul because he feels safer there than within the Canadian Turkish community.

So don't give me any of this bullshit that gay bashers are exclusively white and middle class. Hating gays is universal and accepted.

As for trolling, look in the mirror.


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Last time I looked this thread was about the police murdering a young man. The fact that there is gay bashing in Canada or that you have suffered at the hands of homophobes does not justify summary execution of POC by our police forces. Your raising it as a defence is at best a red herring so lets just call it a red herring.

Please stop diverting this topic with red herrings and get back to the fact that our police are now routinely killing innocent people. The fact that on occasion they actually protect some citizens gives them no right to murder other citizens summarily.


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Yes, nobody is belittling gay-bashing or violent homophobia. But it deserves its own thread (you may well find one already existing).

There was absolutely nothing to do with gay-bashing in this particular case. Don't know the particulars, but do know that there is what we call in French "une bavure" - the strange tendency for police bullets to hit the brains or other vital origins of brown or black people, often youth. The rioters at the hockey games were not treated in the same way, although they caused a great deal of damage - and weren't rioting about what they saw to be a police murder of a buddy in their working-class, immigrant neighbourhood.


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I was just in Montreal. Downtown, over the three days that I spent there I saw two shake-downs and one arrest. In all cases the people involved were young black males. I saw no other actions by the police at all.

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"Police must win the trust of minority communities"

http://tinyurl.com/6kxjdc

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A man is dead. At least five others were injured. Stores were looted. Cars were burned. Buildings were set alight. This is the poisoned harvest of the Montreal police department's troubled record in relations with minority communities.

After a police officer shot and killed blameless 18-year-old Fredy Villanueva on Saturday, the neighbourhood boiled over Sunday night. There is no excuse for those criminal acts. But "the people got to get their rage out," as one local resident told a CBC radio reporter. But why was there rage? If Montreal police had had any reservoir of good relations with the people of Montreal North, and especially minority communities there, reaction to the shooting might have been less violent.

Two things are needed now: First, a speedy inquiry into Saturday's killing, followed by appropriate action by the city and the police. Second, a rethinking of police relations with minority communities. Each time that vexed issue flares up we are promised renewed efforts, but little improvement seems to follow ...



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12 Montreal teens arrested for throwing rocks at police

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Twelve Montreal youths face mischief charges after police cars were pelted with rocks Tuesday night in an east-end borough.

A group of young people gathered in a park near 15th Avenue and Maurice-Duplessis Boulevard and started lobbing rocks at nearby cars around 9 p.m. Tuesday, police said. The park is located in Rivière-des-Prairies, a borough in Montreal’s northeast.

Authorities said it’s too early to say whether there's a link between the rock-throwing incident and a riot in Montreal North on the weekend — although both boroughs are near one another.



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posted 13 August 2008 12:47 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Montreal Gazette pap, quoted by toddschneider:...If Montreal police had had any reservoir of good relations with the people of Montreal North, and especially minority communities there, reaction to the shooting might have been less violent....
As if that would have been a good thing

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Justice for Freddy Villaneuva!, August 14, 2008

Communiqué by the Collective Opposed to Police Brutality (COBP)-Montreal
Justice for Freddy Villanueva, the 43rd Montreal police killing in 22 years

Montreal, August 13, 2008 -- On Saturday August 9, 2008, at about 7pm, a police officer from Station 39 fired four bullets that injured two youth and killed Freddy Villaneuva, 18, in Montreal-Nord. The Collective Opposed to Police Brutality (COBP) offers its condolences and solidarity to the Villaneuva family who are beginning a difficult journey that we hope will lead to the truth and real justice. We offer our solidarity as well to members of the community, and in particular to the families of the two injured youth, Denis Meas, and Jeffrey Sagor Metelus who is still in hospital.


The death of Freddy is part of a long history of repression, abuse and brutality by the Montreal police. What happened is unjustifiable. The police know that they committed an enormous error. They are trying to hide the facts, speaking of twenty youth, when eyewitnesses assert that there were five or six. The police say they were attacked when witnesses assert that they saw no direct confrontation between the police and the group of youth. Four bullets were shot at youth who were not armed and who were reacting to a scene of police brutality that was happening in front of their own eyes. We can't be surprised that people have no confidence in the police and revolt.

As per usual, the Montreal police (Service de police de la ville de Montréal, SPVM) and their union (Fraternité des policiers et policières de Montréal, FPPM), in complicity with the Quebec Provincial Police (Sureté de Québec, SQ), will do all they can in their power to clear the police officer that unjustly killed the youngest son of the Villanueva family. It's unacceptable that police investigate other police officers in such sensitive cases. Police organizations are in solidarity with each other, which is not difficult to prove. During a press conference organized by COBP in 1996, a former SQ investigator, Gaëtan Rivest, confirmed tampering an investigation to the benefit of Dominic Chartier (a Montreal police officer who killed Yvon Lafrance in 1989). He explained that such practices are common within the different police services in Quebec. So, it's not shocking that killer cops are systematically cleared by their colleagues.

The police officers involved in the Saturday evening incident have yet to be questioned, although 30 other witnesses have so far been questioned. This manner of proceeding clearly shows the lack of transparency and impartiality in the investigation led by the SQ. If we trust previous experience, we can expect that this investigation will end by clearing the accused officers. Previous history shows us some facts from which to draw some lessons. Of the 43 cases documented by COBP, 2 police officers have been charged (Alan Gosset who killed Anthony Griffin in 1987 and Giovanni Stante who killed Jean-Pierre Lizotte in 1999) and they were both acquitted. In addition to officers Gosset and Stante, three other officers have been charged after a police killing:

- Police officer Marcovic killed Paul McKinnon, 14, on October 25, 1990. He received 45 days in jail for dangerous driving causing death in 1995, because he didn't show remorse to the family of the victim. He appealed the decision.
- After the beating death of Richard Barnabé, 38, on December 14, 1993, charges were laid against five officers. One officer was acquitted but four others were found guilty of assault causing bodily harm on June 27, 1995: officers Pierre Bergeron, Louis Samson, André Lapointe and Michel Vadeboncoeur. They rejoined the Montreal police force. In 2006, the dismissals of Bergeron and Samson was confirmed in appeal by the Police Ethics Committee.
- After the death of Martin Suazo, 23, on May 31, 1995, police lieutenant Pablo Palacios was charged with obstruction of justice for hiding facts during a police investigation. But on September 14, 1995, the decision to not lay any charges against officer Michel Garneau, who shot and killed Suazo, was announced.

As for the so-called "transparence" of the SQ investigation, we can't count on that either. In the Mohamed Anas Bennis case, killed on December 1, 2005 by police officer Yannick Bernier, the investigation report has still not been made public more than two-and-a-half years later.

Sunday's riot was a clear expression of the dissatisfaction of an entire community. Youth and others are fed up being targeted by the police, and being constantly harassed for the colour of their skin, age, and clothes. The people who participated in the uprising on Sunday did not come from street gangs and were not criminals, as expressed by Yvan Delorme, chief of the SPVM. Rather, they were residents of the neighbourhood and the surrounding area and live daily police repression and discrimination. They sounded alarm bells that must be heard. The Mayor and the SPVM chief must assure that police abuses will stop. At the very least, they should suspend the police officers involved in the death of Freddy Villanueva. For his part, the Minister of Public Security, Jacques Dupuis, must change the law so that police no longer investigate other police officers. There must be a public and independent police inquiry into the events of last Saturday, without waiting more than two-and-a-half years like the Bennis family. Finally, the police involved must be charged criminally so that they answer publicly for their acts.

NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!

The Collective Opposed to Police Brutality (COBP)
514-395-9691 * cobp@hotmail.com

Source: "From Anthony Griffin to Mohamed Anas Bennis: 40 people killed by the Montreal police in 20 years (1987-2006)", pamphlet by COBP available by request by e-mail.


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City-linked PR firm aids groups: Company works with organizations assisting family of slain teenager

http://tinyurl.com/55adky

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Questions are being raised about the credibility of community groups that have taken the lead role in mending relations in Montreal North in the aftermath of last weekend's fatal shooting of Fredy Villanueva by police.

A group of youths who say they are frustrated by the absence of an independent and critical voice for Montreal North residents formed an organization yesterday.

At the same time, The Gazette has learned, Montreal's city hall has quietly lent the services of a professional public-relations firm to the groups that have assisted the Villanueva family. The PR firm also works on contract for the city and has close ties to Mayor Gérald Tremblay's party ...



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quote:
Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
Good theory except it seems to me that many of the gay bashers (at least in Vancouver) seem to look like white middle class boys who come from good homes. Like they would be shot by cops for no reason.

And in Vancouver, gay bashing isn't even a crime; courts have handed down ridiculously lenient sentences for such. I don't think the VPD treats it that seriously either.


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Mario Dumont says the solution to social problems like those in Montréal Nord is school uniforms and more discipline. He says Québec should use U.S. high schools as their model.

Here is Dumont boasting about his grade point average from high school days:

[ 25 August 2008: Message edited by: unionist ]


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"Vancouver, Toronto police forces lauded for racial diversity"

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MONTREAL - Police services will face new challenges as they try to integrate more minorities into their forces, law enforcement officials gathered at the conference of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police were told Wednesday as the annual gathering wrapped up.

"In Toronto, for example, one of the conference attendees cited the example of an Orthodox Jewish woman who could not patrol with a male police officer," said Daniel Marc Weinstock, a panellist on Quebec's commission on the integration of immigrants. "What happened is that the police had a consultation with the woman and the rabbi, and found some solutions that could work for everyone."

Weinstock said Montreal should follow the examples of Toronto and Vancouver, because those cities have a much higher concentration of minority communities, and police forces have more experience with the issue.

"I was struck in the presentation from the people from Toronto and Vancouver about how much is done to integrate minorities," he said. "In those cities, this is a vital necessity for police to do their jobs. We're not at that point yet in Montreal, but we will be" ...


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Some rough "justice":

http://tinyurl.com/3v2eey

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MONTREAL - Montreal police have assigned the two officers involved in the shooting death of 18-year-old Fredy Villanueva to administrative duties pending the results of the inquiry into the incident by the Sûreté du Quebec.

Montreal police said this reassignment could be prolonged after the inquiry if it is deemed necessary. Villanueva was shot and killed on Aug. 9 in Montreal North.



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Another 18-year-old shot by police in Montréal Nord

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An 18-year-old man has been shot in the stomach by police in a north-end Montreal neighbourhood where another teen was killed by police in August.

Montreal police said they received information about noon on Saturday that a man wanted for attempted murder was in St-Michel district.

"The police officers of Montreal saw the individual on the street, and they tried to talk to him but he ran away," said Quebec provincial police spokeswoman Martine Isabelle.

A brief foot chase by police ended in a yard nearby.

Police said they opened fire on the man, who allegedly threatened them with a knife, after unsuccessfully attempting to subdue him with pepper spray. Isabelle said he was struck by one bullet.

The man, identified by family members as Nashwan Abdullah, was taken to hospital and is in stable condition, police said.



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Hundreds march in Montréal Nord; demand public inquiry into killing of Freddy Villanueva

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«Assassins», «criminels», «plus jamais», a scandé la foule le long du trajet de 6km qui s'est terminé dans le parc Henri-Bourassa, devant l'endroit où Fredy Villanueva a été abattu par un policier du SPVM il y a deux mois.

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"Murderers", "criminals", "never again" shouted the crowd along the 6 km route, which ended up in Henri-Bourassa Park in front of the spot where Fredy Villanueva was killed by a Montréal police officer two months ago.

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That's a great photo, like the other one of neighbourhood people with a big "Plus jamais" banner. Good demo too.

"Plus jamais ça" was the slogan for the huge demo in Paris after the police murder of an innocent young man of Maghrebi origin, Malik Oussekine, during the big student protests in 1986. But the watchword goes back at least to the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising (in Polish and Yiddish, obviously), and then sprang up a generation later in the Southern Cone countries (Nunca Más), against the mass disappearances.

Cripes the police are dim. Hancuffing a schoolteacher because he happened to be of Haitian origin...


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