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bigcitygal
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posted 04 February 2008 10:34 AM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Any Toronto babblers want to go with me to this?

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Fabricating the Muslim Subject: Faith, Identity and Cultural Consumption

A panel discussion at the University of Toronto with:
Reina Lewis (London College of Fashion Design, University of the Arts, London UK)
Jasmine Zine (Sociology, Wilfred Laurier) University of the Arts London)
Ricky Varghese (Sociology and Equity Studies, OISE/UT)
Rinaldo Walcott (Sociology and Equity Studies, OISE/UT)

Date: Thursday, February 28, 2008
Time: 6:00pm - 8:00pm
Location: Koffler Institute for Pharmacy Management, 596 Spadina Ave, Room 108, Toronto, ON (On the University of Toronto Campus)

This event is open to the public. Please invite others to attend.

This panel will discuss contemporary Muslim subject formation and lifestyles in relation to the commodification of cultural and religious markers (like the veil) within Europe and North America.

Presentations will be followed by the chance for discussion.

This event is hosted by Sociology and Equity Studies (SESE), OISE/UT



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Catchfire
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posted 07 February 2008 01:52 AM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This sounds fascinating! I'd love to go, but unfortunately geography makes this impossible.
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posted 07 February 2008 07:24 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll see if I can make that.
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bigcitygal
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posted 26 February 2008 06:51 PM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bump! This Thursday!
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posted 26 February 2008 08:58 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The elite of the Toronto progressive scene will be there.
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posted 28 February 2008 07:46 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It was cool. Actually, it was academic in the extreem and it took a bit to start getting my head around that type of idiom having been away from it for so long, but it was sort of interesting. I took away a few things useful both for my job and my moderating.

Besides, anything's fun with BCG along. We went to a cool little place for beer'n curry afterward.


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posted 28 February 2008 07:49 PM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Reina Lewis (London College of Fashion Design, University of the Arts, London UK)

Really?

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posted 28 February 2008 07:52 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Really.
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posted 28 February 2008 08:24 PM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Some notes from the notes I took:

Warning! Academic language will be used! Sorry! It's been a long time since I've heard such language and I can't turn it off!

Reina Lewis: "Marketing Muslim Lifestyles" She's from the U.K. and talked about a plethora of magazines aimed at different Muslim population segments, mostly fashion in content, some aimed at young Muslim women with different stylish hijab designs and stuff. There was a whole visual aspect to most of the presentations which made it slightly less dry than just plain academic. Reina's included covers of the magazines and some of the content and ads.

Jasmine Zine: "Manufacturing Muslim Women" She talked about the creation of the Muslim woman in the West as subject, and how the Muslim woman is constrained on the one hand by religion, piety, modesty and sexism, and on the other by Islamophobia and racism. She talked about how hard it is to talk about the first without activating the second, something that I have struggled with on babble, in the interest of not wanting to reiterate tired Western tropes of the "oppressed Muslim woman". She used the coolest phrase I've ever heard from an academic: secular fundamentalism. Kewl.

Ricky Varghese: "She is not His: Contemplations on the Gendering of Space and Place and the Veil as Critique of Masculinity" He did a cultural critique of both his subject position as a man making a cultural critique, then the critique itself. He examined two scenes from the film "Bombay" in which a Hindu man falls in love with a Muslim woman.

Rinaldo Walcott: "Consume this! Muslim Art in a Post-9-11 World". Rinaldo talked about photo artists and representation of Muslim masculinity in a queer context, including drag, Abu Ghraib, photos of lynching in the US South.

That's the best I can do to summarize, because I don't think you all want to hear me say stuff like "corporeal maladdiction" and "self-orientalized perspective" and "representivity and performativity". Although I have to say tonight reminded me of why I had such a good time in grad school 13 years ago. I'm a closet academic, there I said it!

Afterwards, oldgoat and I worked on solving the world's and babble's problems and I think we got it, but sadly no notes were taken. Damn it!


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posted 28 February 2008 08:30 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yup. The world's problems part was easy.
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posted 28 February 2008 08:31 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bigcitygal:
...secular fundamentalism...
Talk about tired tropes!

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posted 28 February 2008 08:36 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bigcitygal:
She used the coolest phrase I've ever heard from an academic: secular fundamentalism.

Yeah, sorry BCG, but that's become the watchword for the religious backlash of every stripe. It means anything from "don't fund religious schools" to "get God out of the constitution and the Lord's Prayer out of the legislature and creationism out of science class" to straight-out atheism. Bill Blaikie condemned "secular fundamentalism" when he helped create the NDP's We-Love-God Commission.

The term is about as meaningful as calling someone a "terrorist" or a "dirty bastard".

But I'm tired of complaining about it. I've decided if the shoe fits, wear it. So I'm putting it on, right now.


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posted 28 February 2008 08:39 PM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To be clear, I think it's a cool phrase because it describes completely something problematic that's not framed in religious terms. It's a learning for me, so I thought I'd share it.
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posted 28 February 2008 08:43 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bill Blaikie:

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In my view the reason that the left in Canada was as successful as it was, either in forming governments or in influencing governments, was because Canadians would often hear in what the left was saying the practical expression of what they were hearing in their scriptures and from their church’s teachings. In the current context, this resonance may be more difficult to achieve, but the religious left, or for that matter, the religious centre, must not abandon the public square to a brawl between secular fundamentalists and the religious right.

If you do the math, Canadians can be categorized as follows:

1. Religious left
2. Religious centre
3. Religious right
4. Secular fundamentalists

Really no other choice for poor folks like me, is there?

God, to think I used to admire that man before he announced his impending retirement and started fawning on his Maker.


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posted 28 February 2008 08:45 PM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
unionist I think you need to do a groovy chart in excel like in this thread.
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posted 28 February 2008 08:55 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wouldn't I have to write a song first? Something to confront the evil Secular Intercourse with God's Eternal Love?

Wait... I hear the heavenly choir... the angels, the harps... it's coming to me!

quote:
I wonder, wonder who, who-oo-ooh WHO (Who wrote the Book Of Love?)
Tell me, tell me, tell me
Oh, who wrote the Book Of Love?
I've got to know the answer
Was it someone from above?

(Oh, I wonder, wonder who, mmbadoo-ooh, WHO) (Who wrote the Book Of Love?)

I love you darlin'
Baby, you know I do
But I've got to see this Book of Love
Find out why it's true


Whew! Ok, now for the spreadsheet...


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posted 28 February 2008 09:04 PM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And when I get that feeling, I want
Textual healing
Textual healing


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posted 28 February 2008 09:09 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bigcitygal:
And when I get that feeling, I want
Textual healing
Textual healing


Score 10-1 for BCG.


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Catchfire
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posted 06 March 2008 02:40 PM      Profile for Catchfire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was wondering what came of this conference. Both Lewis's and Zine's presentations sound like they were wonderful. Would have liked to go!
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