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derrick_okeefe
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posted 22 March 2008 12:43 PM      Profile for derrick_okeefe        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The January - February 2008 issue of Books in Canada: The Canadian Review of Books features a caricature of Naomi Klein together with the headline 'The Knotted Knickers of Naomi Klein.'

The review inside is by Nicholas Maes, who argues unconvincingly that Naomi is a mere left-wing ideologue [note: he means this as an insult] and that her thesis ignores all contrary evidence. He's especially upset about the criticism of Israel and even asserts that the world would be a much worse place without the benevolent role of U.S. military power. This review, entitled 'Poisonous Pen,' is supplemented by an editorial by Olga Stein (the editor) that also takes her to task for being anti-Israel, anti-U.S., etc...

The content of these articles is not the shocking part, but rather the crude sexist cliche and the offensive way that they use Klein's notoriety to sell some copies.


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wordylefty
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posted 26 March 2008 12:13 PM      Profile for wordylefty   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I subscribe to Books in Canada and I won't be renewing over that front cover illustration. We all, of course, are entitled to our opinions, however when an opinion is proposed in such a derogatory way, one must be held accountable. I replied to the article on my blog: www.wordylefty.wordpress.com
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martin dufresne
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posted 26 March 2008 06:20 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good on you.
I also wrote the editor:

olga.stein@rogers.com

"Your sexist anti-Naomi Klein cover sacrificed to political expediency much of Books in Canada's credibility.

Shame.

Martin Dufresne
Montreal

[ 26 March 2008: Message edited by: martin dufresne ]


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Maven
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posted 06 April 2008 02:09 PM      Profile for Maven        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I also wrote to object to the cover & wanted to share with you the response I got from Olga Stein, the editor. I was a bit taken aback, to say the least!
First, my letter:

Dear Ms. Stein,
In my opinion, "Books in Canada" has sacrificed a great deal of its serious credibility as the reliable source regarding Canadian Books by the sexist and sensationalist caricature and title that you used on the cover of the February 2008 issue. Nichlas Maes' article was also a surprise, seeming to be completely uninformed about actual historical fact and observable evidence, doing nothing to enhance "Books in Canada's" reputation. However, the cover is the much greater insult, exhibiting very bad taste, extremely poor judgement, as well as flagrant sexism. I will not be continuing to read "Books in Canada", unless a very public apology is given to Ms. Klein and to your readers - perhaps in the form of a cover.

Within 5 mins., I got her reply, with no salutation:
"I'm afraid we'll just have to do without your subscription then. To call the cover sexist is preposterous. It's a caricature. There's a venerable tradition of using caricatures to poke fun at 'public' figures. And after all, Ms. Klein makes it clear she doesn't mind getting 'personal' with her ideological enemies. Ms. Klein is not being sold as a sex symbol on the cover, nor is her intelligence being denigrated in any way—merely her political hysteria.
A reader, by the way, is in no position to demand anything. He/she writes a respectful letter to letter and hopes it is published.
Nough said. I'll gladly ask that you be removed off of our subscription list.

quote:


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remind
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posted 06 April 2008 02:31 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow, just wow.
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500_Apples
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posted 06 April 2008 03:31 PM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What is a "Knotted Knickers" ? is that an expression from the 1960s? I couldn't find it on urbandictionary.com.
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clersal
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posted 06 April 2008 03:45 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cliché: Don't get your knickers in a knot
Explanation: 1. Don't get upset or angry.
Country: Australia

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lagatta
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posted 06 April 2008 03:49 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Urban dictionary can be woefully (US) American. (so can babble, by the way, especially about the US elections)...

"Don't get your knickers" (panties) in a knot is a very common expresson, originally British, but known in many countries. Guess the best definition is "don't worry about trifles".

I haven't seen the cover, but "panty" stuff about an attractive female has the subtext of not taking what she says very seriously.


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clersal
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posted 06 April 2008 03:53 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
According to Google it originated in
Australia.
But what does Google know.

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lagatta
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posted 06 April 2008 04:04 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Could be, and I confess I'd rather credit the Aussies than the Brits.

Like "plonk" - that is supposed to be an Aussie expression for cheap vino (especially white), but who knows?


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jas
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posted 07 April 2008 06:18 AM      Profile for jas     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I found this statement very interesting:

quote:

A reader, by the way, is in no position to demand anything. He/she writes a respectful letter to letter and hopes it is published. Nough said. I'll gladly ask that you be removed off of our subscription list.

I guess Books in Canada is independently wealthy and doesn't even need readership! I'll keep that in mind.

[ 07 April 2008: Message edited by: jas ]


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Geneva
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posted 07 April 2008 06:37 AM      Profile for Geneva     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by derrick_okeefe:
The January - February 2008 issue of Books in Canada: The Canadian Review of Books features a caricature of Naomi Klein together with the headline 'The Knotted Knickers of Naomi Klein.'
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is there a link, at least to the cover??
NOT HERE:
http://www.booksincanada.com/

because the words used reflect a mildly archaic but colourful English, no more

[ 07 April 2008: Message edited by: Geneva ]


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Maven
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posted 22 April 2008 01:01 PM      Profile for Maven        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow! Verrrrrry Innterrestting......! The objectionable cover has disappeared?!? Maybe Olga got more than a few letters objecting. Hope so!

Wonder what Naomi Kelin thought of the caricature of her?

Btw, my mother-in-law is a Brit, born & bred & still living there at 94 y.o. She says "Don't get your knickers in a knot" has been used in England all of her life - so I suspect it's a British phrase. My husband - who grew up there, but has been here for 25 years - still always asks if I want my "knickers" put in the dryer?


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