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rici
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posted 04 April 2006 12:13 AM      Profile for rici     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
If this had come out a few days ago, I would have sworn it was a joke:

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CUBA
The Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor (DRL) invites organizations to submit Statements of Interest outlining program concepts and capacity to manage projects in Cuba that will:

Develop and strengthen the role of women in the on-going struggle for democracy on the island and prepare women for leadership roles in the post-Castro transition;

Employ advanced technology such as satellite, WIFI, cell phones and internet devices to break the information blockade; facilitate communications with and between democratic activists and to disseminate pro-democracy information on the island.


That's from a Call for Proposals issued by the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labour; a branch of the US State Department:

quote:
The Bureau supports innovative programs that uphold democratic principles, support and strengthen democratic institutions, promote human rights, and build civil society in countries and regions of the world that are geo-strategically important to the U.S.

The lucky countries who have been designated geo-strategically important to the U.S. (second prize is armed invasion) for this call for proposals are Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Haiti and Guatemala.

ETA: What the heck is a geo-strategy?

[ 04 April 2006: Message edited by: rici ]


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siren
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posted 04 April 2006 12:36 AM      Profile for siren     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
So rici, do you have your proposal all written up? I would just write the one and submit it for all the countries mentioned; it's not like Condoleeza Rice will know the difference.

I wonder how it feels to be an official in one of these countries and read this little clap trap. Maybe Rice is trying to be more polite than her predecessors; a little fact gathering, "democracy", programming -- and then the bombing will commence.


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posted 04 April 2006 12:51 AM      Profile for Aristotleded24   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Here we go round the Cuba mulberry bush. The whole Cuba/democracy/Castro/capitalism/socialism debate has occured quite intensely around here. Check out threads here, here, here, and here.
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posted 04 April 2006 01:03 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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siren: Maybe Rice is trying to be more polite than her predecessors; a little fact gathering, "democracy", programming -- and then the bombing will commence.

I believe the sequence is:
1. Economic Hit Men. If that fails, then...
2. Hit Men. If that fails, then...
3. Bombing.
That sequence "worked" where there is a comprador element/class in the target country.

Mind you, Cuba is a special case. Maybe Condi will denounce Cuba for allowing torture...in Guantanamo Bay. Good thing the US has some troops so close by, eh?


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posted 04 April 2006 01:10 AM      Profile for siren     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Quite right N.Beltov, Cuba has always been a special case. Maybe Rice will be [the American leader to finally assassinate Castro.

Last I heard of this, a few years back, the plan was to move into action following Castro's demise. Guess the Bush team are getting anxious for some more action on the world stage.


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posted 04 April 2006 01:29 AM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
What? Canada is not on that list? Of course, Bush already owns our Prime Minister.
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posted 04 April 2006 01:36 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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siren: Maybe Rice will be the American leader to finally assassinate Castro.

Even in jest I don't like this sort of talk. I hope that Fidel Castro Ruiz outlives all of his enemies and dies peacefully, surrounded by grandchildren and loved ones.

When the USA becomes a more democratic country then they can lecture others on how to govern themselves. That day is still a long way off.


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posted 04 April 2006 01:43 AM      Profile for siren     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by N.Beltov:
Even in jest I don't like this sort of talk. I hope that Fidel Castro Ruiz outlives all of his enemies and dies peacefully, surrounded by grandchildren and loved ones.

I agree -- but the jest was meant to jab the US, not Castro.

Has Castro been grooming a successor? I read awhile ago about the role his brother might play following Castro's passing, but I believe the brother is not a young buck, either.


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posted 04 April 2006 01:53 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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siren: Has Castro been grooming a successor?

I dunno. The Cuban government, I hope and expect, has prepared itself for this day many times over. I'd like to see a radical new collective leadership, with a rotating chairperson and so on, to follow Fidel. That would really fuck up the USA and be very amusing to the rest of us. There's nothing the neighbourhood bully hates more than organized collective resistance.


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rici
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posted 04 April 2006 01:59 AM      Profile for rici     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Siren, I think the successor issue is precisely what is being addressed by that CFP. If you look at the target programs for each country (there's a link in the original post), you'll see that the goals are not random generic human rights goals; they are specifically targetted. The Venezuelan priorities, for example, include support for "independent labor (sic) unions", "judicial independence" and "respect for political and ideological pluralism". You don't need prescription lenses to read between those lines.

The only other country where gender programs rate a mention is Ecuador ("increase civic participation by women and members of indigenous communities"); I'm not 100% certain of what that's talking about but given that Ecuador has a pretty politically active indigenous community already, including some well-respected women leaders, it would seem fairly redundant as a goal unless intended to promote some pro-US women and indigenous communities in opposition to the existing ones.

So the line about "prepare women for leadership roles in the post-Castro transition" probably has a pretty strong subtext as well, although I don't off-hand know what it might be.

By the way, only US non-profits are eligible to submit proposals. I don't know how a US non-profit is expected to undertake a project in Cuba without violating the economic blockade, but I'm sure they've figured out some ploy.

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posted 04 April 2006 02:14 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This all begs the question: why is the USA financing and promoting activities in another country that would be illegal within its own borders? [Outsiders are not allowed to be funding political campaigns in the USA.] It's imperial hypocrisy.
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posted 04 April 2006 02:19 AM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by N.Beltov:
This all begs the question: why is the USA financing and promoting activities in another country that would be illegal within its own borders? [Outsiders are not allowed to be funding political campaigns in the USA.] It's imperial hypocrisy.

You're right. The US has long had double standards for its foreign and domestic policies.


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posted 04 April 2006 02:44 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Cougyr: The US has long had double standards for its foreign and domestic policies.

The most odious of which is the double standard in regard to things like...war crimes. The USA does not allow even the theoretical, legal possibility that its citizens could be guilty [or "be allowed to be prosecuted"]of war crimes but participates in the prosecution of others who are, in their opinion, guilty of such crimes. This view is held in common over both Democratic and Republican administrations.

Mind you, the torture issue is putting the USA into some mighty repulsive company. But perhaps it is not a double standard, because they do horrible things to people both domestically, like executing "mentally-retarded" people, and torturing them abroad. Mighty. repulsive. Mighty and repulsive. The good old USA.

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M. Spector
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posted 04 April 2006 03:59 AM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by N.Beltov:
This all begs the question: why is the USA financing and promoting activities in another country that would be illegal within its own borders? [Outsiders are not allowed to be funding political campaigns in the USA.] It's imperial hypocrisy.
They have been doing this for years through the National Endowment for Democracy, and by the enactment of such meddlesome laws as the Russian Democracy Act, the Belarus Democracy Act, the Cuban Liberty and Democratic Solidarity (Libertad) Act of 1996 (better known as the Helms-Burton Act), and the Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act.

All provide for millions of dollars of funding for opposition groups in these countries and many others to promote subversion of the existing governments.

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posted 04 April 2006 12:46 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Aristotleded24:
Check out threads here, here, here, and here.
Hey, don't forget here.

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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 04 April 2006 12:49 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Who will fund the struggle for democracy in the United States?
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No Yards
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posted 04 April 2006 01:13 PM      Profile for No Yards   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Chavez is funding the struggle against poverty in the USA. Maybe he can be convinced to give a hand to democracy as well?
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