babble home
rabble.ca - news for the rest of us
today's active topics


  
FAQ | Forum Home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» babble   » archived babble   » USA   » Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked

Email this thread to someone!    
Author Topic: Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked
Debra
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 117

posted 06 November 2004 05:25 PM      Profile for Debra   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
While the heavily scrutinized touch-screen voting machines seemed to produce results in which the registered Democrat/Republican ratios matched the Kerry/Bush vote, and so did the optically-scanned paper ballots in the larger counties, in Florida's smaller counties the results from the optically scanned paper ballots - fed into a central tabulator PC and thus vulnerable to hacking - seem to have been reversed.

In Baker County, for example, with 12,887 registered voters, 69.3% of them Democrats and 24.3% of them Republicans, the vote was only 2,180 for Kerry and 7,738 for Bush, the opposite of what is seen everywhere else in the country where registered Democrats largely voted for Kerry.

In Dixie County, with 4,988 registered voters, 77.5% of them Democrats and a mere 15% registered as Republicans, only 1,959 people voted for Kerry, but 4,433 voted for Bush.

The pattern repeats over and over again - but only in the smaller counties where, it was probably assumed, the small voter numbers wouldn't be much noticed. Franklin County, 77.3% registered Democrats, went 58.5% for Bush. Holmes County, 72.7% registered Democrats, went 77.25% for Bush.


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm


From: The only difference between graffiti & philosophy is the word fuck... | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged
CMOT Dibbler
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 4117

posted 06 November 2004 07:28 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
How long will it be before this is mentioned on the CBC?
From: Just outside Fernie, British Columbia | Registered: May 2003  |  IP: Logged
remind
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 6289

posted 07 November 2004 12:51 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
2 years
From: "watching the tide roll away" | Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged
Cueball
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 4790

posted 07 November 2004 04:15 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Why don't we have an ironic grimacing smiley?
From: Out from under the bridge and out for a stroll | Registered: Dec 2003  |  IP: Logged
mutualdisdain
recent-rabble-rouser
Babbler # 7315

posted 07 November 2004 08:22 PM      Profile for mutualdisdain     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This has to be completely inaccurate. No programmer in their right mind would write election software that used a flat file data source to store vote counts. (ie one that could be opened in Excel) No programmer in their right mind would use an unprotected data source to hold this information, and no touch-screen system would allow you to exit the full-screen mode so easily, or to use the client machine to exit to the OS.

You are a bunch of simpletons. I can't believe I even took the time to read that.


From: USA | Registered: Nov 2004  |  IP: Logged
Reality. Bites.
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 6718

posted 07 November 2004 08:31 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post
How about the time you took to register in order to post this?

Seems like you have more time on your hands than you'd like to admit.


From: Gone for good | Registered: Aug 2004  |  IP: Logged
Jacob Two-Two
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2092

posted 07 November 2004 08:48 PM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
No programmer in their right mind would write election software that used a flat file data source to store vote counts. (ie one that could be opened in Excel) No programmer in their right mind would use an unprotected data source to hold this information, and no touch-screen system would allow you to exit the full-screen mode so easily, or to use the client machine to exit to the OS.

You seem to be completely missing the point. The system was designed to be tampered with, which is why it has all these nonsensical features.

The software was never supposed to come under public scrutiny, by the way. All requests to diebold to review the program were flatly refused. The reason this stuff came out is because a private citizen stumbled onto a copy without the company's knowledge.

Here, watch the movie.

edited to add: whoops! Looks like somebody sabotaged that website. Now why would they do that, I wonder? Check back later. The mini-film is quite good.

[ 07 November 2004: Message edited by: Jacob Two-Two ]


From: There is but one Gord and Moolah is his profit | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged
Diane Demorney
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 6183

posted 07 November 2004 09:02 PM      Profile for Diane Demorney   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Here, watch the movie.

edited to add: whoops! Looks like somebody sabotaged that website. Now why would they do that, I wonder? Check back later. The mini-film is quite good.


I was able to find the Votergate movie on suprnova.org if anyone was interested.


From: Calgary | Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged
No Yards
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 4169

posted 07 November 2004 09:09 PM      Profile for No Yards   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Have you bothered to look into the specifications for these voting machines?


No, I didn't think so . . . fortunatly Others have.

Diebolds GEMS software runs using Microsoft Access database (while not technically a "flat file" format, is quite similar to a spreadsheet format) which runs on that well know bastion of security; Microsoft Windows.

And where you get the idea that a touch screen would make any difference in the use of software or provide added security from exiting to the OS should be explained if that's the implication you are making.

I get the feeling that your use of the term "software engineer" in your profile should more accuratly be "unemploed software engineer" if this is turely your level of software "awareness".

[ 07 November 2004: Message edited by: No Yards ]


From: Defending traditional marriage since June 28, 2005 | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged

All times are Pacific Time  

   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | rabble.ca | Policy Statement

Copyright 2001-2008 rabble.ca