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Erik Redburn
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posted 06 February 2006 06:54 PM      Profile for Erik Redburn     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Remarked upon in last thread, there's a nice mix of old PCs and CA types, along with some newbies.

Old Reform/CA

Stephen Harper - Prime Minister
Stockwell Day - Minister of Public Safety
Gary Lunn - Minister of Natural Resources
Carol Skelton - Minister of National Revenue and Minister of Western Economic Diversification
Monte Solberg - Minister of Citizenship and Immigration
Chuck Strahl - Minister of Agriculture (though Chuck was Deputy Leader of the Progressive Conservative Democratic Representative Caucus for a few months - Gary Lunn was another PCDRCer)
Vic Toews - Minister of Justice

Old P.C.

Jean-Pierre Blackburn - Minister of Labour and Minister of the Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec
Michael Chong - President of the Queen's Privy Council and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs and Minister for Sport
Michael Fortier - Minister of Public Works and Government Services
Loyola Hearn - Minister of Fisheries and Oceans
Marjory LeBreton - Leader of the Government in the Senate
Peter MacKay - Minister of Foreign Affairs
Rob Nicholson - House Leader
Jim Prentice - Minister of Indian Affairs
Greg Thompson - Minister of Veterans Affairs

Old Liberals

Lawrence Cannon - Minister of Transport
David Emerson - Minister International Trade


Rona Ambrose - Minister of Environment
John Baird - President of the Treasury Board
Maxime Bernier - Minister of Industry
Tony Clement - Health
Diane Finley - Minister of Human Resources and Social Development
Jim Flaherty - Minister of Finance
Gordon O'Connor - Minister of Defence
Bev Oda - Minister of Canadian Heritage and Status of Women
Josée Verner - Minister of International Co-operation and Minister for La Francophonie and Official Languages

Reviewing the mix of candidates though I can't find a single real moderate, let alone a remotely pink tory, among them. Or is Peter McKay now considered a moderate conservative in some meaningful sense? (or does such a figure even exist anymore within the party?) Also noticed the old PC bunch mainly got the minor ministries with major league slash and burn Harrisite reactionary Flaherty getting finance.

Two questions, are there in fact any genuine moderates in his cabinet? And if not, is there any reason left to assume that Harper is going to moderate his own ideological agenda even for the short term? I'm not that familiar with some of names from back East so maybe others can fill us in(?) Please discuss.

From: Broke but not bent. | Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged
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posted 06 February 2006 07:03 PM      Profile for Hawkins     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I don't think there is any better indication for any NDP that had dreams of getting something meaningful done in this parliament that those dreams pale in comparison to the damage that will be wraught.

Anyone think Harper is TRYING to set up an early election just to get pissed off Canadians to vote for him?

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Boom Boom
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posted 06 February 2006 07:16 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Originally posted by Hawkins:
Anyone think Harper is TRYING to set up an early election just to get pissed off Canadians to vote for him?

Some of Harpoon's appointments today are sheer provocations (Emerson and Fortier, for example); I don't see Harpoon gaining in another election, and with the destruction that Flaherty and Clement wreck on the country. Watch the Cons fuck up, shoot themselves in the foot. Jesus Christ - Stockwell Day and Vic Toews in important portfolios. It's a matter of time before this govt. collapses on itself. It'll be absolute chaos if the Liberals are still infighting amongst themselves if another election is called anytime soon. Maybe the Cons are engineering all this - call another election while the Libs are disorganised and stupid. I hope Jack Layton keeps his head above the fray.

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posted 06 February 2006 07:42 PM      Profile for margrace        Edit/Delete Post
Yep two important ministers in there, finance by the man who left Ontario in a huge deficit and the man who was so surprised that nurses where working part time at several hospitals in the SARS crisis. Isn't he the one who laid of 20% of Ontario's nurses.
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V. Jara
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posted 06 February 2006 07:47 PM      Profile for V. Jara     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Stockwell Day as Public Safety Minister?

Can anyone say increased domestic spying?

Tony Clement as Health Minister:

Can anyone say privatization of public services at taxpayer expense?

David Emerson as International Trade Minister:

Can anyone say strong-arming neoliberal trade deals and more failure on softwood lumber?

Michael Fortier as Public Works minister?

Can anyone make parallels to the Sponsorship group and public sector downsizing?

Rona Ambrose as Environment Minister:

Can anyone say bye, bye regulations you're hurting Alberta productivity?

Jim Flaherty as Finance Minister:

Thanks a lot Ontario.

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V. Jara
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posted 06 February 2006 07:50 PM      Profile for V. Jara     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Harpoon may be re-employing his election 2005-6 strategy:

- Roll out the bad news early
- Lace it with a sugary GST cut
- Cash in on the Liberals next moment of weakness
- Pray to God his MPs don't blow it for him.

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posted 06 February 2006 07:58 PM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
We'll know for sure as soon as the first budget comes down.

My sense is that a leaderless bankrupt Liberal Party will end up voting with the government for at least the next year.

That leaves the NDP and the BQ free to take on the government on their whole agenda.

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audra trower williams
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posted 06 February 2006 09:34 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Lifesite is reporting 9 anti-choice cabinet ministers in the new cabinet.

It's not good. It's not good. It's not good.

From: And I'm a look you in the eye for every bar of the chorus | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged
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posted 06 February 2006 09:47 PM      Profile for sandpiper     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
My one offensive remark of the evening:

The Rona Ambrose post is a smart political move. Environmentalists are getting mobilized, and Ambrose is intelligent and fairly well-spoken. When bad people get ready to do some bad things, they'll choose an attractive young woman to be their public face.

She'll work well on film; the scientists, activists and protesters won't. Only Rahim Jaffer is more handsome than Rona Ambrose.

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posted 06 February 2006 09:56 PM      Profile for swallow     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
If a country's word is its bond, how do we feel about Foreign Minister Peter Mackay?

"I solemnly swear to defend Canadian sovereignty. What's that Mr Bush? A merger? Why, I'd love to!"

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posted 06 February 2006 09:56 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
How many creationists? Or IDers? I hope Rona Ambrose isn't either. But then, how much power will she have in Cabinet?
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posted 06 February 2006 10:04 PM      Profile for miles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Power in Cabinet rests with membership in 2 key committees Priorities and Planning and Operations. This is where the decisions will be made.

see pm's website now blue instead of martin red.

from red to blue still pmo

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posted 06 February 2006 10:42 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This topic is already being discussed here.

You all should remember that this forum "Election 2006" was a dedicated forum for the election. The election is over. Post-election discussion about the parties, any imminent leadership races, the new Conservative government and its policies, etc., properly belong in the politics forum. The election forum is probably going to be archived within the next few days, and any new active threads here will be lost.

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