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leftcoastguy
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posted 13 January 2006 08:13 AM      Profile for leftcoastguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
January 8, 2006
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pogge
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posted 13 January 2006 10:00 AM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Just stop it, LCG.
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leftcoastguy
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posted 13 January 2006 10:19 AM      Profile for leftcoastguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Hapless PM can't trip up Harper
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When it comes to holding the line on abortion rights, Harper happens to have more of a track record than Martin.

When he campaigned for the leadership of the Canadian Alliance, he warned his party that, if selected, he would not be taking the abortion battle to Parliament.

And at the founding convention of the Conservative party last spring, Tory delegates endorsed the notion of a woman's right to choose to interrupt a pregnancy by a comfortable margin.

In his attempts to scare voters into supporting his party on Jan. 23, Martin is well on the way to become more frightening than the opponent he is so desperately trying to catch up to.

If the Prime Minister is willing to sacrifice intellectual honesty to his partisan interest in the heat of a losing election campaign, if he is willing to turn his campaign into a full-fledged witch hunt, how far would he be willing to go if the fate of the country was hanging in the balance in a referendum?

Chances are that will remain a theoretical question.

This is the week when columnists have to decide where they want to be on election night to be on hand for the post-victory news conference of the winner. Until further notice, I am headed for Calgary.



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Stargazer
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posted 13 January 2006 10:30 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Yeah, right!
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JKR
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posted 13 January 2006 10:32 AM      Profile for JKR        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by pogge:
Just stop it, LCG.

LCG is campaigning for a Conservative majority.


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posted 13 January 2006 10:36 AM      Profile for BCastro     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
LCG is campaigning against Liberal hypocrisy.
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pogge
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posted 13 January 2006 10:46 AM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
LCG is helping to make the board unusable by starting a new thread every time he gets a stray thought in his head.
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leftcoastguy
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posted 13 January 2006 10:48 AM      Profile for leftcoastguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by BCastro:
LCG is campaigning against Liberal hypocrisy.

Exactly.


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leftcoastguy
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posted 13 January 2006 10:52 AM      Profile for leftcoastguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Messy campaign reflects Martin as PM

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What's wrong with a Liberal campaign now free-falling toward a jolting landing is what's wrong with Paul Martin as prime minister.

Contradictory, inconsistent and still searching for a focus, this Liberal tour and Martin's leadership reflect the dangers of power exercised without discipline.

Even the most desperate attack advertising — and new Liberal television spots shout panic — can't hide that this election isn't about Stephen Harper. It's about expectations Martin couldn't meet, a pinball government that ricochets bumper-to-bumper and a ruling party so accustomed to privilege that skimming public money to pay friends is just taking care of business.

Democracy may be a slow-witted beast but it's smart enough to know when the risk of change is less frightening than the risk of doing nothing.

So Liberals who foolishly believed they could fight and win this election the way they fought and won the last must now stop the erosion of core support and find the energy to soldier through 11 difficult days.

How else to explain the sudden preoccupation with Toronto and what should be safe Liberal seats?



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ceti
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posted 13 January 2006 11:34 AM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
lcg campaigning against Liberal "hypocrisy" and for the Conservative "real deal."

Just a little more left, and you come around full circle, eh? Reminds me of the Trots you meet who make movements so unattractive from the outside.


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mary123
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posted 13 January 2006 12:06 PM      Profile for mary123     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Why are the Cons so slippery that you can't place them where they stand politically? (much like some people who post here.)

At one time Harper was extreme now he's had a makeover and he's a "moderate". He's a freaking fraud and I want every Canadian voter to know it now before they get fooled into voting for the freak.If he's elected he'll go back to being an extreme religious freak.

Hopefully Canadians wake up from the coma they are in.

[ 13 January 2006: Message edited by: mary123 ]


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JKR
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posted 13 January 2006 12:48 PM      Profile for JKR        Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by mary123:
Why are the Cons so slippery that you can't place them where they stand politically? (much like some people who post here.)

There seems to be some Conservatives here masqurading as progressives. They want us to forget that the Conservatives exist.


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posted 13 January 2006 01:59 PM      Profile for Left Turn     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Could we agree not to post any links to writings by Conservative party hacks?
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Michael Watkins
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posted 13 January 2006 02:09 PM      Profile for Michael Watkins   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by BCastro:
LCG is campaigning against Liberal hypocrisy.

That's all well and good, if there were a third alternative ready to pick up the pieces.

Therefore I find myself in the strange position of wishing the NDP campaign well, and feeling disappointed that it isn't doing better.

IMO the dippers made some strategic blunders by not focussing on the CPC as well as the liberals from day one. That free pass both the NDP and Liberal campaigns gave Harper for weeks allowed Harper to redefine himself as "not scary" and this new not-scary image is sticking and sticking hard.

With just over a week left, it seems unlikely that any amount of hand-waving by Layton and gushy-talk about dippers in parliament being able to ensure a government works for "working people" is not going to cut it.

The big mistake Layton's strategy folks made was underestimating the public's desire for change.

Harper asked for permission from day one - he said I'm here to change Canada; and the public want that. They don't want a minority govt, they want a majority govt, in the hopes that "things will get done".

Harper asked for permission to lead; Layton is asking permission to follow; permission to be an occasional thorn in the side of government and perhaps be a government breaker.

The polls are telling us that they are rejecting Layton's premise that "only with more NDP MP's will things get done" - the public have told us they are prepared to go the other route - the majority govt road - in order to a) get "things" done and b) avoid going back to the polls again.

Enjoy beating the Liberals into submission, its worth while to be sure.

But don't pretend that a majority (or solid minority) Harper-led government is some kind of "victory" for the country.

Its not.

And Layton's team blew it - he had some respect and authority built up in the last parliament; he won't be handed that by the Conservatives in the next.

[ 13 January 2006: Message edited by: Michael Watkins ]


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leftcoastguy
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posted 13 January 2006 04:34 PM      Profile for leftcoastguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
"Values of convenience"
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The phrase comes from the NDP, who remind us that as recently as October, the House of Commons voted on a motion to set up a fund for the bereaved families of "first responders" — firefighters and other rescue workers — who die in the line of duty.

This morning Paul Martin announced a Liberal government would set up such a fund. Which is odd, because when that NDP motion came to a vote three months ago, the Liberal government did its best to stop it.

Here's the list of Liberals who voted against the Canadian values the prime minister now champions.

Reg Alcock, Eleni Bakopanos, Sue Barnes, Mauril Bélanger, Carolyn Bennett, Ethel Blondin-Andrew, Françoise Boivin, Raymond Bonin, Scott Brison, Sarmite Bulte, Aileen Carroll, Raymond Chan, Joe Comuzzi, Irwin Cotler, Ruby Dhalla, Stephane Dion, Ujjal Dosanjh, Ken Dryden, David Emerson, Joe Fontana, Liza Frulla, John Godfrey, Ralph Goodale, Bill Graham, Charles Hubbard, Tony Ianno, Wajid Khan, Jean Lapierre, Derek Lee, Gurbax Malhi, John McCallum, David McGuinty, Joe McGuire, Anne McLellan, Andy Mitchell, Stephen Owen, Bernard Patry Jim Peterson, Pierre Pettigrew, Karen Redman, Geoff Regan, Lucienne Robillard, Jacques Saada, Andy Savoy, Francis Scarpaleggia, Judy Sgro, Raymond Simard, Brent St. Denis, Belinda Stronach, Lui Temelkovski, Tony Valeri, Joe Volpe, and Tom Wappel.

In the end, the motion passed by 49 votes, over all the opposition the Liberals could muster.




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leftcoastguy
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posted 13 January 2006 04:46 PM      Profile for leftcoastguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
- from Paul Wells website

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He used to like her writing, too

Chantal Hébert isn't persuaded.


In August of 2002, when Paul Martin had been denying for six weeks that he was campaigning to topple the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, I met a young admirer of Paul Martin. This guy was also a diligent student of my columns, and, very politely, he asked why I was so critical of the great man.

After thinking for a few seconds about how to phrase my answer delicately, I said: "Basically, I'm just beating the rush."



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posted 13 January 2006 04:52 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
lcg your last link to Paul Wells needs fixing.
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