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kyall glennie
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posted 18 June 2004 02:23 AM      Profile for kyall glennie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This is big news, and I need your help to make it an election issue.

Tonight at the Palliser all-candidates' forum, the Liberal candidate John Williams and the Conservative candidate Dave Batters committed to "working with the provinces to reduce tuition fees."

That's in quotes becuase it was my question, and the answer from both was a "yes" followed by talk of increasing federal transfers. I asked if "they and their party would" commit, so meaning they said not only would THEY do it, they said their PARTY would.

This is obviously *not* in line with Liberal and Conservative policy, as both call for increased loan limits, not increased transfer payments. Call your local candidate, call the leaders' offices, call the media and quiz them all about this. Make this an issue that the leaders have to rescind. It's important as it is an issue that is supported across ideological lines (even social conservatives support it because they see their kids being unable to get the education they need.)

While I unfortunately don't have it recorded, it was said by both candidates in front of 187 people at the Palliser forum. Incumbent Dick Proctor, the NDP PSE critic, obviously supports reducing fees and is committed to the 10% initially planned in the platform and said it was caucus policy to aim to eventually eliminate fees. (whoo hoo!)

peace everyone.
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Johan Boyden
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posted 18 June 2004 12:30 PM      Profile for Johan Boyden   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by kyall glennie:
Incumbent Dick Proctor, the NDP PSE critic, obviously supports reducing fees and is committed to the 10% initially planned in the platform and said it was caucus policy to aim to eventually eliminate fees. (whoo hoo!)

Well that is cute, politicians sure say alot of things that make them look good in the situation. Where is this actually writen in an official NDP statment?

The NDP official line is freeze tuition.

The Communist Party (a Party where the whole membership vote on Party policy, not just the party caucus) states explicitly on tution fees: reduce and then elminate.

See http://election2004.communist-party.ca/youth.htm


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swirrlygrrl
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posted 18 June 2004 03:41 PM      Profile for swirrlygrrl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Johan Boyden:
[QB]The NDP official line is freeze tuition.

Um, no it isn't. Perhaps you should read the NDP platform, specifically, this section:

quote:
Cutting tuition fees, just as NDP governments in British Columbia and Manitoba did, with a national plan to reduce fees by 10 per cent and then freeze them by increasing federal funding for post-secondary education and working with the provinces to make sure it happens.

On the local candidates thing, Kyall, I had the pleasure of asking a question on the current provisions of the bancruptcy act in an Ottawa-Centre all candidate debate last night, specifically whether the candidates would work to repeal the 10 year ban on students filing for bancruptcy, and here are the responses:

Mike Murphy, Conservative:
- no answer to the actual question. Said Conservatives would elimiate parental contributions for students loans (ie make it easier for students to go into debt); look into more flexible repayment terms, because the level of debt wasn't the problem, but repayment was (likely meaning income contingent loan repayment); and increasing coop programs.

David Chernushenko, Green Party
- Said couldn't give an "on the spot response" (in spite of the fact that we have a written response from his campaign on this issue). said that the Green party was committeed to freezing tution fees, and to finding cost savings on campus through reduced resource consumption.

Ed Broadbent, NDP
- Agreed the provisions should be repealed. Added that we needed to channel the dollars cut from post-secondary education, in particular those post-1997 when we were in a surplus situation, back into the system, putting in place conditions for the reciept of those funds, that being not only a freeze of fees, but a 10% rollback, as in Manitoba.

Richard Mahoney, Liberal
- Mahoney said that tuition fees were provincial jurisdiction. He said that he could not answer the question, but would look into it. He was aware there had been changes to the Bancruptcy Act, and either they hadn't been put in place or they hadn't been effective. He said that affordable post-secondary education was a goal of the previous Liberal goivernments, which is why they'd put in place the RESP and increased the Canada Education Savings Grant (he didn't mention how this it functions as a tax deferral and way of giving grants to wealthier families) , and made repayment easier for Canada Student Loans.


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kyall glennie
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posted 19 June 2004 12:35 AM      Profile for kyall glennie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Johan-

While the document by Aaron and Pablo (cool guy, by the way) is admirable, it's pointless for me in Palliser (Moose Jaw-Regina) because there is no candidate for the Communist Party.

Thus, the only socialist running in the riding is Dick Proctor.

I'm fully behind eliminating tuition fees, and while the Saskatchewan provincial NDP isn't there yet (actually a long way away) with pressure from the federal party (now that it can afford to exist between elections) there may be some movement here on that issue.


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