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Mike Johnston
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posted 17 June 2004 10:19 PM      Profile for Mike Johnston        Edit/Delete Post
"The New Democratic Party is part of a greater national and international movement that seeks to challenge the dominant political agenda of market globalization and resulting environmental, social, and economic problems...Internationally, our mission is to cooperate with democratic socialist organizations and other groups who share our values and our mission of building a global community...Our challenge is to make Canada an example to the world of the nation that best combines sustainable prosperity with social, economic and political equality. We want to make this nation one which truly belongs to all its people" (emphasis added; from the Mission Statement adopted by the National Convention of the New Democratic Party in 1993).


Internationally, our mission is to cooperate with democratic socialist organizations and other groups who share our values and our mission of building a global community.


DOES THIS INCLUDE Al Qaeda ALSO?

The greatest problem with the NDP is who and what are the:
>>> "other groups who share our values and our mission of building a global community."<<<


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kingblake
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posted 17 June 2004 10:23 PM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Yes. We cooperate with Al Quaida. Always have.
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Kinetix
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posted 17 June 2004 10:28 PM      Profile for Kinetix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Of course. Al Qaeda is one of the democratic socialist organizations on the forefront of today's political tides.
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Mycroft_
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posted 17 June 2004 10:33 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Al Qaeda is democratic socialist? Do you have any clue what democratic socialism is?

Sorry, democratic socialism is an evil secular philosophy which Osama Bin Laden has no sympathy with.


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BugBear
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posted 17 June 2004 10:35 PM      Profile for BugBear   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Johnston:

DOES THIS INCLUDE Al Qaeda ALSO?
<<<


Their are various ways of discribing Al Qaeda.. Personally I spell the name of that organisation
Al Cia Duh

However, it could be, and is presented as a neo-feudal theocratic group. If it is not a CIA front it is also fascist (but not National Socialist). The Ba'ath can be seen as National Socialist.
Nazis, although putting out that they are working class are actually class co-laborationist with the national bourgeios in leadership roles.

In case yours was a serious question, but it was most likely merely an ignorant troll.


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Mycroft_
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posted 17 June 2004 10:37 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The Nazis were not actually socialists. National Socialist was a deliberate misnomer and I think you're getting into George W. territory by calling the Baathists "nazis".
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lagatta
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posted 17 June 2004 10:40 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
That is ludicrous. Al Qaida combines the most heinous traits of backward religious fundamentalist thought and Rolex yuppidom. They are neither democratic nor socialists of any stripe.

Remember, they targeted a bunch of working people in NYC. Certainly one of the worst single occupational "accidents" in history.

No accident, but neither was Westray...


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posted 17 June 2004 10:41 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Mycroft:
The Nazis were not actually socialists. National Socialist was a deliberate misnomer and I think you're getting into George W. territory by calling the Baathists "nazis".

I personally consider Baathists to be Kimists.

Either way, I despise their American-backed asses for keeping the true socialists out of power in Iraq.


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BugBear
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posted 17 June 2004 10:58 PM      Profile for BugBear   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Mycroft:
The Nazis were not actually socialists. National Socialist was a deliberate misnomer and I think you're getting into George W. territory by calling the Baathists "nazis".

I was being scientific. Yes, the Germain National Socialist Workers' Party was not a "true" socialist party but I was trying to avoid using the word "true". It opens a can of worms. So I merely described what was actually going on. The actually "socialistc" part of the party were the Brown Shirts who were wiped out during the night of the long knives. When I was younger I had a girl friend who's dad was a Nazi. He joined in the mid 30s because of the two weeks paid holidays, nationalised medicare, workman's comp and 40 hour week. that sort of thing was very popular in working class circles during the depression.

Look at the Ba'ath programme both in Syria and in Iraq and you will find remarkable echos of the Germain party including the secular (virtually atheistic) world view and the anti-sematism. I am not being judgemental.

To be judgemental, I opposaed those regimes for their anti-trade union and anti working class policies during the time when Iraq was the US darling. A premature anti-fascist as it were. Anti fascist before it became all the rage.

Sadr is cut from the same cloth. His forces provide free medical attention, keep the electricy on in areas they control. Fight street crime and drugs. Run water purification plants. The Sadrists provide more infra structure than the occupying forces.

I'm rooting for the Union of Unemployed Workers and the Womens' Movement. These are secular forces and are democratic socialist without the neo-feudal and theocratic elements. We can lie all we like about the forces what the US is fighting. But if we want to know what is going on we should transend the Bushies lies.


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posted 18 June 2004 02:20 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
O Lord.
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