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NDP Newbie
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posted 07 June 2004 05:12 PM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
They only have about 40,000 more people than 1 Toronto riding.

4's too many. (And contributes to Liberal over-representation.)


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4t2
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posted 07 June 2004 05:17 PM      Profile for 4t2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
STOP IT!

You're making the site a nightmare to read...


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Aric H
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posted 07 June 2004 05:40 PM      Profile for Aric H     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
For a while it was debated whether Quebec with its population should have 75 ridings. It was done to give it a large piece of the electoral map because of its special status. The reason PEI has 4 seats is probably in the original constitution as well.
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Guêpe
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posted 07 June 2004 05:44 PM      Profile for Guêpe   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
no there was a law that past that says that no province can have less MP's then Senators.

Also apparently the riding distribution in Canada is based proportionally to Quebecs ridings.


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Screaming Lord Byron
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posted 07 June 2004 05:45 PM      Profile for Screaming Lord Byron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Grandfather clause.
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Doug
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posted 07 June 2004 05:49 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It's in the constitution actually, that no province can have fewer MPs than senators - which is why it's so very difficult to change.
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Aric H
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posted 07 June 2004 05:50 PM      Profile for Aric H     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Kim Campbell says in her autobio "Time and Chance" that prior to the 1993 election there was talk in political rooms that if Quebec went below the required population to have 75 seats that they would probably still have to allow the seat total to remain at 75 to prevent upsetting Quebec in changing it.
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Sara Mayo
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posted 07 June 2004 06:04 PM      Profile for Sara Mayo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
FYI, Quebec doesn't get "special status" in the distribution of ridings. None of the provinces gets exactly the same proportion of seats as its proportion of the Canadian population. Since there must be at least one seat per province/territory and there can't be fractions of seats, is it almost mathematically impossible to have perfect agreement between number of seats and provincial population.

7 provinces and the 3 Territories have more seats than their population, and three provinces are underrepresented.

Here's the difference of % seats - % of pop. for each prov./terr.:

NL 0.635
NS 0.884
NB 0.621
PEI 0.864
QC 0.699
ON -4.30
MB 0.874
SK 1.41
AB -0.899
BC -1.44
YK 0.226
NWT 0.191
NV 0.232

It looks like it's Saskatchewan that gets the best deal and Ontario is royally screwed. Is this the begining of "Ontarian Alienation"...

Edited to add:
In response to the Kim Campbell statemetn above, there's never been a need to reduce any province's seats, I don't think there ever will be. Every time redistribution happens, the total number of seats is increased and the provinces that haven't had high population growth (like SK and Quebec) don't get any increases to their seats. No one needs to cut Quebec's 75 seats to keep its representation in the HoC in check with its population.

[ 07 June 2004: Message edited by: Sara Mayo ]


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