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leftcoastguy
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posted 02 November 2005 12:21 AM      Profile for leftcoastguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They seem to have a hate on for the NDP.

Who owns this paper?

What is this all about? Look at these recent headlines:

Harper says he's ready for election, accuses NDP of chickening out

Say-Anything Jack's political dilemma

Memo to Jack: private health not going away

Don’t fall for Grit bribe

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National Polling - 2005

Canada
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 13 SC / 17 / 33 / 31 / 13 / 06*
Dec 13 SE / 13 / 38 / 30 / 14 / 05
Dec 12 IR / 17 / 36 / 27 / 13
Dec 12 SC / 16 / 34 / 30 / 12 / 06
Dec 12 PO / 15 / 38 / 30 / 12 / ?? / 15
Dec 12 SE / 14 / 39 / 31 / 13 / 04 / 19 3 days
Dec 11 SC / 15 / 35 / 30 / 14 / 06
Dec 11 SE / 14 / 39 / 32 / 13 / 04 / 18 3 days
Dec 10 SE / 15 / 39 / 30 / 11 / 04 / 20 3 days
Dec 09 SE / 18 / 41 / 26 / 11 / 04 / 20 3 days
Dec 09 SE / 17 / 40 / 28 / 11 / 04 / 19 5 days
Dec 09 SC / 16 / 36 / 28 / 14 / 06
Dec 09 IR / 16 / 34 / 30 / ?? / 05 / 14 3 days
Dec 08 LG / 16 / 39 / 27 / 12 / ??
Dec 08 SC / 15 / 36 / 30 / 14 / 05
Dec 08 SE / 18 / 40 / 26 / 11 / 04 / 20
Dec 07 SE / 17 / 40 / 28 / 11 / 04 / 18
Dec 07 SC / 16 / 35 / 29 / 13 / 0 / 4
Dec 06 SE / 16 / 38 / 30 / 12 / 05 / 18
Dec 06 SC / 16 / 35 / 29 / 14 / 06
Dec 05 SE / 16 / 37 / 30 / 13 / 05 / 18
Dec 04 SC / 16 / 34 / 30 / 14 / 06
Dec 04 SE / 15 / 38 / 29 / 14 / 05 / 17
Dec 03 SE / 14 / 36 / 31 / 14 / ?? / 17
Dec 03 IR / 17 / 33 / 31 / 14 / 05 / 08
Dec 03 EK / 18 / 34 / 27 / 14 / 06 / ??
Dec 03 SC / 15 / 34 / 30 / 14 / 05 /
Dec 02 SE / 15 / 37 / 29 / 14 / 05 / 16
Dec 01 SC / 16 / 35 / 30 / 14 / 06
Nov 30 SC / 17 / 35 / 30 / 14 / 05
Nov 29 DC / 19 / 36 / 28 / 14 / ??
Nov 29 IR / 18 / 31 / 31 / 14 / 05
Nov 27 PO / 16 / 36 / 31 / 14 / ??
Nov 27 SC / 17 / 35 / 29 / 14 / 05
Nov 26 EK / 17 / 39 / 29 / 11 / 04
Nov 25 EN / 20 / 35 / 30 / 14 / ??
Nov 24 IR / 16 / 34 / 30 / 15 / 05
Nov 15 IR / 16 / 36 / 27 / 13 / 06
Nov 14 DC/ 22 / 33 / 26 / ?? / ??
Nov 12 EK / 21 / 33 / 28 / 13 / 05
Nov 08 SC / 16 / 35 / 28 / ?? / ??
Nov 07 DC/ 20 / 33 / 30 / 14 / ??
Oct 17 DC / 17 / 33 / 29 / 13 / ??
Jun 28 LE / 16 / 37 / 30 / 12 / 04

Canada Outside Quebec
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 13 SC / ?? / 36 / 38*
Dec 12 SC / 19 / 37 / 37 / 00 / 07
Dec 11 SC / 18 / 38 / 37 / 00 / 07
Dec 09 SC / 19 / 39 / 35 / 00 / 07
Dec 08 SC / 19 / 37 / 38 / 00 / 06
Dec 07 SC / 19 / 37 / 38
Dec 06 SC / 19 / 37 / 37
Dec 05 SC / 20 / 37 / 36 / 00 / 07
Dec 04 SC / 19 / 37 / 37
Dec 02 SC / 19 / 38 / 38
Dec 01 SC / 20 / 37 / 37 / 00 / 06
Jun 28 EL / 19 / 38 / 37 / 00 / 05

Canada Outside Quebec (Ages: 18-24)
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 06 DI / 24 / 28 / 23 / 00 / 11
Jun 28 EL /

Western Canada
Date / CO / ND / LB / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 13 SE / 17 / 34 / 41 / 00 / 08 / 17
Dec 12 SE / 17 / 33 / 44 / 00 / 05 / 18 3 days
Dec 11 SE / 18 / 34 / 44 / 00 / 04 / 18 3 days
Dec 10 SE / 21 / 34 / 41 / 00 / 05 / 18 3 days
Dec 09 SE / 25 / 37 / 34 / 00 / 05 / 17 3 days
Dec 08 SE / 24 / 35 / 36 / 00 / 04 / 19
Dec 07 SE / 21 / 34 / 42 / 00 / 03 / 18
Dec 06 SE / 19 . 32 / 45 / 00 / 04 / 17
Dec 05 SE / 19 / 32 / 45 / 00 / 04 / 15
Dec 04 SE / 19 / 33 / 42 / 00 / 05
Dec 03 SE / 18 / 31 / 45 / 00 / 07
Dec 02 SE / 20 / 32 / 41 / 00 / 07
Jun 28 EL /

British Columbia
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 13 SC /
Dec 12 PO / 30 / 36 / 29 / 00 / ?? / 15
Dec 12 SC / 30 / 30 / 32 / 00 / 08
Dec 11 SC / 31 / 30 / 29 / 00 / 10
DEc 12 IR / 25 / 33 / 33
Dec 10 EK / 30 / 31 / 34 / 00 / 04
Dec 09 SE / 23 / 42 / 29 / 00 / 05 / 18 5 days
Dec 09 IR / 30 / 35 / 27
Dec 09 SC / 33 / 28 / 28 / 00 / 11
Dec 08 LG / 24 / 32 / 34
Dec 08 SC / 31 / 30 / 29 / 00 / 10
Dec 07 SC / 31 / 29 / 31
Dec 06 SC / 27 / 34 / 31
Dec 05 SC / 28 / 33 / 30
Dec 04 SC / 25 / 31 / 34
Dec 03 IR / 26 / 31 / 34 / 00 / 08
Dec 03 EK / 30 / 35 / 26 / 00 / 10
Dec 02 SC / 25 / 31 / 34
Dec 01 SC / 26 / 34 / 32
Nov 29 IR / 27 / 26 / 32 / 00 / 09
Nov 28 SC / 29 / 35 / 30
Nov 27 PO / 27 / 35 / 33
Nov 18 MU / 33 / 38 / 24 / ?? / 04
Nov 14 DC / 36 / 34 / 21 /
Nov 09 EK / 33 / 33 / 24 / ?? / ??
Sep ?? MU / 26 / 46 / 23 /
May 16 SC / 28 / 37 / 23
Jun 28 EL / 27 / 29 / 36 / 00 / 06

British Columbia Vancouver Area
Date / CO / NP / LP / CP/ BQ / GR / UN
Dec 10 EK / 35 / 31 / 33 / 00 / 01

British Columbia Lower Mainland
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 08 SC / 24 / 37 / 28 / 00 / 11
Jun 28 EL / 26 / 33 / 35 / 00 / 05

British Columbia Outside Vancouver
Date / CO / NP / LP / CP / BQ / Gr / UN
Dec 10 EK / 27 / 32 / 34 / 00 / 06

British Columbia Outside Lower Mainland
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 08 SC / 31 / 24 / 36 / 00 / 09
Jun 28 EL / 29 / 24 / 40 / 00 / 08

Prairies (AB, SK & MB)
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 13 SC /
Dec 12 PO / 14 / 28 / 53 / 00 / ?? / 13
Dec 12 SC / 14 / 18 / 60 / 00 / 08
Dec 11 SC / 12 / 21 / 59 / 00 / 08
Dec 09 SC / 15 / 27 / 52 / 00 / 06
Dec 08 SC / 15 / 26 / 53 / 00 / 06
Dec 07 SC / 17 / 22 / 54
Dec 06 SC / 16 / 23 / 55
Dec 05 SC / 15 / 23 / 57
Dec 04 SC / 14 / 25 / 58
Dec 02 SC / 14 / 25 / 59
Dec 01 SC / 16 / 28 / 52
Nov 28 SC / 18 / 27 / 50
Jun 28 EL / 15 / 25 / 53

Alberta
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 09 SE / 11 / 30 / 54 / 00 / 04 / 19 5 days
Dec 08 LG / 09 / 26 / 55
Dec 03 IR / 11 / 19 / 63 / 00 / 07
Dec 03 EK / 15 / 21 / 54 / 00 / 10
Nov 29 IR / 10 / 16 / 59 / 00 / 08
Jun 28 EL / 10 / 22 / 62 / 00 / ??

Saskatchewan & Manitoba
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 12 IR / 34 / ?? / 31
Dec 09 SE / 29 / 27 / 41 / 00 / 02 / 17 5 days
Dec 08 LG / 23 / 39 / 32
Dec 03 IR / 23 / 29 / 43 / 00 / 06
Dec 03 EK / 34 / 34 / 27 / 00 / 04
Nov 29 IR / 20 / 25 / 39 / 00 / 03
Jun 28 EL

Saskatchewan
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Jun 28 EL / 23 / 27 / 43 / 00 / ??

Manitoba
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 09 PR / 23 / 33 / 40 / 00
Jun 28 EL / 24 / 33 / 39 / 00 / ??

Ontario
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 13 SC / 18 / 44 / 32 / 00 / 06*
Dec 13 SE / 12 / 48 / 36 / 00 / 04 / 18
Dec 12 IR / 18 / 47 / 28
Dec 12 SC / 17 / 47 / 29 / 00 / 07
Dec 12 PO / 16 / 47 / 32 / 00 / ?? / 16
Dec 12 SE / 13 / 47 / 36 / 00 / 04 / 17 3 days
Dec 11 SC / 17 / 46 / 30 / 00 / 07
Dec 11 SE / 14 / 46 / 36 / 00 / 04 / 16 3 days
Dec 10 SE / 16 / 48 / 32 / 00 / 04 / 17 3 days
Dec 09 SE / 20 / 48 / 28 / 00 / 05 / 16 3 days
Dec 09 IR / ?? / 41 / 34 / 00
Dec 09 SC / 16 / 45 / 32 / 00 / 07
Dec 08 SC / 17 / 42 / 36 / 00 / 05
Dec 08 LG / ?? / 47 / 28
Dec 08 SE / 19 / 47 / 28 / 00 / 06 / 16
Dec 07 SC / 16 / 43 / 36
Dec 07 SE / 19 / 48 / 28 / 00 / 05 / 16
Dec 06 SE / 18 / 47 / 29 / 00 / 06 / 22
Dec 06 SC / 17 / 43 / 33 / 00
Dec 05 SE / 19 / 46 / 30 / 00 / 06 / 23
Dec 05 SC / 18 / 44 /30
Dec 04 SE / 16 / 48 / 30 / 00 / 06
Dec 04 SC / 19 / 42 / 30 / 00
Dec 03 IR / 20 / 38 / 35 / 00 / 06
Dec 03 SE / 17 / 44 / 34 / 00 / 05
Dec 03 EK / 18 / 43 / 31 / 00 / 08
Dec 02 SC / 20 / 43 / 30
Dec 02 SE / 18 / 43 / 33 / 00 / 05
DEc 01 SC / 20 / 41 / 33
Nov 29 IR / 19 / 34 / 32 / 00 / 06
Nov 28 SC / 20 / 40 / 35
Nov 14 DC / 25 / 38 / 30 /
Jun 28 EL / 18 / 45 / 32 / 00 / 04

Ontartio Greater Toronto Area
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 09 SE / 18 / 50 / 26 / 00 / 05 / 16 5 days
Dec 08 SC / 18 / 49 / 25 / 00 / 08
Dec 03 IR / 21 / 43 / 29 / 00 / 08
Nov 10 EN / 21 / 42 / 33 / 00 / 04
Jul ?? EN / 19 / 51 / 27 / 00 / 03
Apr ?? EN / 21 / 41 / 35 / 00 / 03
Jun 28 EL / 15 / 51 / 28 / 00 / 04

Ontario GTA (Area Code 416)
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 08 SC / 24 / 51 / 17 / 00 / 08
Dec 03 IR / 26 / 49 / 19 / 00 / 06
Nov 10 EN / 28 / 43 / 25 / 00 / 05
Jun 28 EL / 20 / 56 / 20 / 00 / 04

Ontario GTA (Area Code 905)
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 08 SC / 10 / 47 / 35 / 00 / 08
Dec 03 IR / 16 / 38 / 38 / 00 / 06
Nov 10 EN / 15 / 42 / 40 / 00 / 03
Jun 28 EL / 11 / 52 / 43 / 00 / 04

Ontario - Toronto CMC
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 12 PO / 17 / 57 / 23 / 00 / ?? / 15

Ontario - Outside of Toronto CMA
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 12 PO / 14 / 41 / 38 / 00 / ?? / 16


Ontario Outside GTA
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP
Dec 08 SC / 18 / 38 / 38
Jun 28 EL /

Ontario Southwest
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 09 SE / 18 / 53 / 27 / 00 / 02 / 18 5 days
Dec 08 SC / 11 / 41 / 43 / 00 / 05
Jun 28 EL / 21 / 40 / 34 / 00 / 05

Ontario Northern & Eastern
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 09 SE / 21 / 39 / 33 / 00 / 06 / 18 5 days
Jun 28 EL /

Quebec
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 13 SC / 07 / 24 / 10 / 54 / 54 / 05*
Dec 13 SE / 08 / 27 / 09 / 55 / 02 / 17
Dec 12 SC / 06 / 26 / 10 / 55 / 03*
Dec 12 IR / ?? / 25 / ?? / 56
Dec 12 PO / 08 / 23 / 08 / 59 / ?? / 14
Dec 12 SE / 08 / 30 / 10 / 51 / 02 / 20 3 days
Dec 11 SE / 07 / 32 / 09 / 51 / 02 / 20 3 days
Dec 11 SC / 05 / 26 / 08 / 56 / 04*
Dep 10 SE / 08 / 32 / 10 / 48 / 02 / 26 3 days
Dec 09 SE / 07 / 32 / 09 / 50 / 01 / 28 3 days
Dec 09 IR / ?? / 26 / ?? / 55 / ??
Dec 09 SC / 07 / 27 / 07 / 54 / 05*
Dec 08 LG / ?? / 32 / ?? / 50
Dec 08 SC / 06 / 29 / 04 / 56 / 05*
Dec 08 SE / 10 / 32 / 07 / 49 / 02 / 26
Dec 07 SC / 06 / 32 / 04 / 53 / 05
Dec 07 SE / 08 / 32 / 10 / 46 / 04 / 21
Dec 06 SC / 04 / 30 / 06 / 56 / 04
Dec 06 SE / 07 / 31 / 10 / 47 / 04 / 16
Dec 05 SC / 04 / 29 / 08 / 54 / 05
Dec 05 SE / 06 / 30 / 12 / 49 / 04 / 16
Dec 04 SC / 06 / 26 / 08 / 56 / 04
Dec 04 SE / 06 / 28 / 09 / 52 / 03
Dec 03 IR / 07 / 27 / 07 / 57 / 02
Dec 03 SE / 05 / 31 / 08 / 54 / 04
Dec 03 IR / 06 / 26 / 07 / 57 / ??
Dec 03 EK / 09 / 21 / 11 / 58 / 02
Dec 02 SC / 06 / 28 / 08 / 55 / 04
Dec 02 SE / 06 / 30 / 09 / 50 / 06
Dec 01 SC / 07 / 28 / 08 / 55 / 03
Nov 29 IR / 06 / 21 / 07 / 52 / 02
Nov 29 CR / 13 / 23 / 09 / 53 / ?? / 18
Nov 28 SC / 07 / 30 / 08 / 54 / 02
Nov 14 DC / 09 / 26 / 07 / 54
Jun 28 EL / 05 / 34 / 09 / 49 / 03

Quebec Outside Montreal
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 09 SE / 04 / 30 / 10 / 52 / 04 / 25 5 days
Dec 08 SC / 05 / 27 / 08 / 57 / 03
Dec 01 SC / 06 / 28 / 11 / 53 / 02
Jun 28 EL / 04 / 29 / 10 / 54 / 03

Quebec (Age: 18-24)
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 06 DI / 18 / 11 / 08 / 49 / 08

Quebec Montreal Area
Date / CO / ND / LP / CO / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 09 SE / 14 / 35 / 11 / 35 / 04 / 20 5 days
Dec 08 SC / 06 / 29 / 05 / 54 / 06
Dec 01 SC / 09 / 28 / 04 / 56 / 03
Jun 28 EL / 06 / 44 / 06 / 41 / 03

Atlantic
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 13 SE / 15 / 53 / 28 / 00 / 04 / 18*
Dec 12 PO / 12 / 55 / 32 / 00 / ?? / 17
Dec 12 SE / 18 / 53 / 28 / 00 / 02 / 20 3 days
Dec 11 SE / 15 / 53 / 30 / 00 / 03 / 17 3 days
Dec 10 SE / 11 / 50 / 36 / 00 / 04 / 21 3 days
Dec 09 SE / 10 / 55 / 30 / 00 / 05 / 28 3 days
Dec 09 SE / 15 / 55 / 25 / 00 / 05 / 19 5 days
Dec 09 IR / ?? / 40 / 36 / 00 3 days
Dec 08 LG / 19 / 47 / 31
Dec 08 SC / 19 / 48 / 31 / 00 / 02
Dec 08 SE / 12 / 58 / 26 / 00 / 04 / 19
Dec 07 SE / 19 / 58 / 19 / 00 / 04 / 18
Dec 06 SE / 18 / 54 / 23 / 00 / 04 / 18
Dec 05 SE / 21 / 50 / 21 / 00 / 06 / 18
Dec 04 SE / 15 / 51 / 30 / 00 / 03
Dec 03 IR / 18 / 48 / 32 / 00 / 01
Dec 03 SE / 19 / 48 / 30 / 00 / 03
Dec 03 EK / 20 / 50 / 30 / 00 / o1
Dec 02 SE / 18 / 49 / 31 / 00 / 01
Dec 01 SC / 15 / 48 / 36 / 00 / 01
Nov 29 IR / 23 / 43 / 23 / 00 / 01
Jun 28 EL / 23 / 44 / 30 / 00 / 03

New Brunswick
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
JUN 28 EL /

Newfoundland and Labrador
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Jun 28 EL /

Nova Scotia
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Jun 28 EL /

Prince Edward Island
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Jun 28 EL /

Decima National Online Polling - Canada
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 07 Dc / 20 / 34 / 26 / 14
Dec 11 DC / 20 / 36 / 27* 3 days

Decima National Online Polling - BC
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 11 DC / 32 / 36 / 27

Decima National Online Polling - Ontario
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 11 DC / ?? / 44 / 31

Decima National Online Polling - Quebec
Date / CO / ND / LP / CP / BQ / GR / UN
Dec 11 DC / ?? / 24 / ?? / 54

* denotes new data.

--------------
Election Results - 2004

Results by province
Party name BC AB SK MB ON QC NB NS PE NL NU NT YK Total
Liberal Seats: 8 2 1 3 75 21 7 6 4 5 1 1 1 135
Popular vote: 28.6 22.0 27.2 33.2 44.7 33.9 44.6 39.7 52.5 48.0 51.3 39.4 45.7 36.7

Conservative Seats: 22 26 13 7 24 - 2 3 - 2 - - - 99
Vote: 36.3 61.7 41.8 39.1 31.5 8.8 31.1 28.0 30.7 32.3 14.4 17.2 20.9 29.6

Bloc Québécois Seats: 54 54
Vote: 48.9 12.4

New Democratic Seats: 5 - - 4 7 - 1 2 - - - - - 19
Vote: 26.6 9.5 23.4 23.5 18.1 4.6 20.6 28.4 12.5 17.5 15.2 39.1 25.7 15.7

No Affiliation Seats: 1 - - 1
Vote: 1.0 x x 0.1
Total seats: 36 28 14 14 106 75 10 11 4 7 1 1 1 308
-------------

Here is a bit of minor research in relation to the polling companies and the NDP:

Obtained polling data from the Nodice webstite to analyse what kind of polling results the NDP is averaging from the different polling companies, and also what the pecking order for the polling companies is vis-a -vie the NDP.

For the period following the last election, which was June 28, 2004, the dats was obtained for the period August 23, 2004 to November 17, 2005. during that period the total polling average for the NDP is 18.3%

The different polling companies, their number of polls, their average polling results, and how much they were up or down from the total polling average for the NDP are as follows:

1 Environics (6 polls) - 21.2%, above by 2.9%
2 Decima (14 polls) - 19.4%, above by 1.1%
3 EKOS(6 polls) - 19.2%, above by 0.9%

---------18.3% average-------

4 Compas (5 polls) - 18%, below by 0.3%
5 Strategic Counsel (10 polls) - 18%, below by 0.3%
6 Ipsos-Reid (13 polls) - 17.5%, below by 0.8%
7 SES (8 polls) - 17.3%, below by 1.0%
8 Pollara (14 polls) - 17.1%, below by 1.2%
9 Leger (5 polls) - 16.8%, below by 1.5%

---------------
National Polling Companies

Canada
Compas
EKOS
Environics
Ipsos-Reid
Leger Marketing
Pollara
SES Research
Strategic Counsel

Local Polling Companies

British Columbia
Mustel Group

Alberta

Saskatchewan

Manitoba
Probe Research (Winnipeg Free Press

Ontario

Quebec

Newfoundland and Labrador

New Brunswick

Prine Edward Island

Nova Scotia

[ 14 December 2005: Message edited by: leftcoastguy ]


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kuri
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posted 02 November 2005 12:28 AM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Search and ye shall find:

quote:
The newspaper went through a number of changes in the past couple of decades, including ownership. In December, 2001, the newspaper was bought from Thomson Newspapers by FP Canadian Newspapers Limited Partnership, a company founded by Ronald Stern and Bob Silver, two businessmen with strong Manitoba roots. Stern and Silver, both born and raised in Winnipeg, have been partners for 20 years in Western Glove Works and in other businesses, including two large newsprint mills in Alberta and Ontario. Stern is also the former publisher of Vancouver Magazine. Stern and Silver have picked up the challenges renewed the promise of the founder: We are pledged to betterment of the community.

source


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Aristotleded24
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posted 02 November 2005 12:51 AM      Profile for Aristotleded24   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's what I have information about that I can back up:

The managing editor of the paper admitted last year (page A9) to having once worked for former Conservative Premier Gary Filmon. This followed a complaint about a vicious attack (page A6) on a left-wing city councillor. There are other examples of opinion pieces written in the Sun, both signed and unsigned that are poorly-written and just take cheap shots at people. The editor has responded with a "gee, we're just expressing a political viewpoint, we don't understand why everyone's getting upset with us" kind of attitude. It's pretty bad; the opinion pieces are of quality that I'd expect in the National Post or Sun Media.


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leftcoastguy
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posted 02 November 2005 03:43 AM      Profile for leftcoastguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Let's make sure the Manitoba government never spends a cent in advertising with them until they clean up their act, eh!
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posted 02 November 2005 06:28 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You'll be waiting a long, long time. I maintained for years that what Brandon really needed was a newspaper, rather than an Official Tory Organ. And while it's always been Tory, at one point The Sun was independantly-owned and actually (believe it or not) won national newspaper awards for best paper in its class. (I have never forgiven one previous owner for remaining silent about rampant homophobia in "the wheat city" despite the fact -- or because of it -- that he was a huge "closet case" himself, but that is a topic for another thread...)

Since being sold to Thompson, though, The Sun has been turned into another cookie-cutter chain rag that mainly concentrates on reprinting wire service stories, with a handful of obligatory local stories on city hall and the local sports teams, and on raking off as much local advertising as they are able. Any reporters worthy of the name are quickly drawn to other papers in other cities, and The Sun is left populated by hacks, drudges and ad salespeople.

And it's not just the newspaper -- on my last trip back east, I had a lengthy conversation at a local pub with a local radio reporter, who was bemoaning the stifling state of local news-gathering as he related to me details of cases where the local station ownership and The Sun had conspired to not cover certain local stories that would prove.... ahhh... embarrassing to the area Powers That Be. He told me that had resulted in a couple of reporters (print and broadcast) resigning in disgust and going elsewhere, while he was simply biding his time and shopping his resumé around.

No, I don't miss Brandon at all.

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posted 02 November 2005 09:49 AM      Profile for Aristotleded24   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:
Since being sold to Thompson, though, The Sun has been turned into another cookie-cutter chain rag that mainly concentrates on reprinting wire service stories, with a handful of obligatory local stories on city hall and the local sports teams, and on raking off as much local advertising as they are able. Any reporters worthy of the name are quickly drawn to other papers in other cities, and The Sun is left populated by hacks, drudges and ad salespeople.

Even that isn't guaranteed. If you take a close look at a murder trial that took place in the spring, you'll see that the Free Press sent someone into Brandon to cover it, so they're not even allowing their own reporters to cover big local stories that could be a reporter's ticket to somewhere else.


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quote:
Originally posted by leftcoastguy:
They seem to have a hate on for the NDP.

Who owns this paper?

What is this all about? Look at these recent headlines:

Harper says he's ready for election, accuses NDP of chickening out

Say-Anything Jack's political dilemma

Memo to Jack: private health not going away

Don’t fall for Grit bribe


You can add one more. The headline regarding a story about local mayors asking for assistance after flood damage from heavy rains read: "Mayors go begging."


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quote:
Originally posted by Hephaestion:
(I have never forgiven one previous owner for remaining silent about rampant homophobia in "the wheat city" despite the fact -- or because of it -- that he was a huge "closet case" himself, but that is a topic for another thread...)

Ironically, the BS took an editorial stance in favour of extending marriage benefits to same sex couples.


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