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Webgear
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posted 23 March 2006 11:24 PM      Profile for Webgear     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Afghan boy dies despite Canadian help

"An Afghan boy who received cancer treatment through the generosity of Canadian soldiers and a church in Edmonton has died.

Six-year-old Namatullah passed away Thursday, Canadian Press said."


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siren
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posted 23 March 2006 11:42 PM      Profile for siren     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Aww. That's too bad. I've seen photos of little kids with very ugly (likely cancerous) growths on their faces. Guess the environment is none too healthy in Afghanistan.

I wonder how the little chap who was brought here for -- i believe-- heart surgery is doing.


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Michelle
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posted 24 March 2006 08:41 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This can also go in the Middle East forum.
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Webgear
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posted 24 March 2006 08:32 PM      Profile for Webgear     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
siren

The last thing I heard and this was a while ago, is that the boy was not doing well.


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Red Albertan
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posted 25 March 2006 02:57 AM      Profile for Red Albertan        Edit/Delete Post
In the first year of combat after the Invasion of Afghanistan, 500-600 tons of depleted uranium munitions were 'dispensed' in Afghanistan. It is a weird schizophrenic mentality that on one hand tries to save a child here and there, while the entire country is being systematically poisoned forever, and civilians are bombed and shot at, and brutalized by warlords and druglords which the Canadian military helps to support.

Methinks these isolated seemingly humanitarian cases are mere publicity stunts by an otherwise brutally oppressive invasion force.

[ 25 March 2006: Message edited by: Red Albertan ]


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Grizzled Wolf
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posted 25 March 2006 09:25 AM      Profile for Grizzled Wolf     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Red Albertan:

Methinks these isolated seemingly humanitarian cases are mere publicity stunts by an otherwise brutally oppressive invasion force.


Or perhapos it is just good people, trying to do good things...nah, that can't be it.


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Jingles
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posted 25 March 2006 09:46 AM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Or perhapos it is just good people, trying to do good things...nah, that can't be it.

Those immediately involved may honestly believe that they are doing good things, but the propaganda value of such events can't be overlooked. The media exposure surrounding these stories is part and parcel of the concerted effort to manage public perception to believe that lie that our military occupation of Afghanistan is a purely humanitarian intervention.


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Staznie
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posted 25 March 2006 09:52 AM      Profile for Staznie        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Jingles:

Those immediately involved may honestly believe that they are doing good things, but the propaganda value of such events can't be overlooked. The media exposure surrounding these stories is part and parcel of the concerted effort to manage public perception to believe that lie that our military occupation of Afghanistan is a purely humanitarian intervention.


why would you know more sitting on your ass at home, than us 2000+ troops over there? you would love it if we would fail over there wouldn't you. treasonous bastard.


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Michelle
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posted 25 March 2006 10:15 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Goodbye Staznie. I'd love to say it was a pleasure, but it wasn't.
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Grizzled Wolf
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posted 25 March 2006 12:10 PM      Profile for Grizzled Wolf     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Jingles:

Those immediately involved may honestly believe that they are doing good things, but the propaganda value of such events can't be overlooked. The media exposure surrounding these stories is part and parcel of the concerted effort to manage public perception to believe that lie that our military occupation of Afghanistan is a purely humanitarian intervention.


Actually, from a number of perspectives, these types of things are generally frowned upon. They divert resources and focus away from the larger effort, and often create much heartache for those intimately involved - but Canadian soldiers are, at the root of it, big softies for this kind of thing. So many of us are fathers or mothers, are far from home, and crave the ability to both personalise the situation, and hit one out of the park.


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Fidel
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posted 25 March 2006 01:26 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It was a very nice gesture on the part of the Canadian soldiers to have raised the money for his operation. No wonder we're thought well of over there.

They need socialized medicine. Moreover, they need socialism.

Viva la revolucion!


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BleedingHeart
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posted 25 March 2006 03:40 PM      Profile for BleedingHeart   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Call me hard-hearted but how many wells could they have dug, health clinics they could have built for the cost of treating several individual children.

Now of course think what they could build for the cost of sending soldiers over there!


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Webgear
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posted 25 March 2006 03:43 PM      Profile for Webgear     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I know that a lot of wells have been dug, and just as many schools have been repair or rebuilt.
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Mullah Boykin
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posted 25 March 2006 07:02 PM      Profile for Mullah Boykin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
"I know that a lot of wells have been dug"

reminds me of this old article
CANADA SELLING AFGHANS' WATER


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Webgear
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posted 25 March 2006 07:16 PM      Profile for Webgear     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Mullah Boykin

Do you know if they ever did sell the water to the French?

Camp Julien is now an ANA base, I would guess they have access to the well and the clean water.


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Jerry West
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posted 25 March 2006 10:43 PM      Profile for Jerry West   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Grizzled Wolf
Canadian soldiers are, at the root of it, big softies for this kind of thing. So many of us are fathers or mothers, are far from home, and crave the ability to both personalise the situation, and hit one out of the park.

GW is right, and it isn't just Canadian soldiers or this war either. Although there are bad apples, most troops in both US and Canadian forces and I would imagine a number of others, when the opportunity presents itself, respond in a humanitarian way, particularly when it comes to children.

The trajedy is that a lot of what they respond to is a result of their being there in the first place, but that does not reflect on the troops, only on those who implement the policy.

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Webgear
I know that a lot of wells have been dug, and just as many schools have been repair or rebuilt.

And? This is not the first time nor place for this, and in the end it is only a band-aid on a sucking chest wound.

Western armies in this culture are a foreign body in a host that will sooner or later succeed in rejecting them, even though they may happily take whatever goodies are offered in the meanwhile. What every soldier and citizen should be asking themselves is how many will die before they are willing to admit it.


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