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al-Qa'bong
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posted 20 December 2005 07:26 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Perhaps the USA could take time from spreading democracy around the Middle East to giving their long-time ally some pointers on jurisprudence.

Torture Sentence for Indian Migrant Worker Follows Clash With Saudi Citizen

Saudi Arabia acceded to the Convention against Torture in 1997. However, Noushad’s case is the third known instance over the past year in which a Saudi court has issued a sentence of eye-gouging, Human Rights Watch said. Saudi law allows for maiming, including the severing of limbs and severe flogging, as judicial punishments.


Oh, right...forget it...


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freeThinker
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posted 20 December 2005 07:49 PM      Profile for freeThinker        Edit/Delete Post
An eye for an eye, and so forth... I guess the Indian was unable to come up with the blood money. Fucking savages. Hard to say what's worse, losing the eye or the death penalty. I'd say the eye, because without 2 I'd be unable to earn a living, at least what I'm doing now. I say, nuke the whole fucking country and steal their oil. Need some weed man, need to mellow out.
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Michelle
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posted 20 December 2005 08:09 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Yeah, okay, see you.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 20 December 2005 08:14 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
I'd say the eye, because without 2 I'd be unable to earn a living, at least what I'm doing now.

Yaaarrr! Have ye considered Piracy?


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anne cameron
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posted 20 December 2005 08:18 PM      Profile for anne cameron     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed is king"
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Hephaestion
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posted 20 December 2005 08:49 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:

Yeah, okay, see you.


Is that irony, or is that irony ?! I mean, I ask you...


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Michelle
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posted 20 December 2005 08:55 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh man, Heph, I didn't even think of that. It was totally unintended, of course.
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arborman
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posted 20 December 2005 08:56 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Any country that allows torture, detention without charge and 'disappearing' has not a leg to stand on regarding human rights. I include Canada in that list.
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Kevin_Laddle
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posted 20 December 2005 09:16 PM      Profile for Kevin_Laddle   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by freeThinker:
An eye for an eye, and so forth... I guess the Indian was unable to come up with the blood money. Fucking savages. Hard to say what's worse, losing the eye or the death penalty. I'd say the eye, because without 2 I'd be unable to earn a living, at least what I'm doing now. I say, nuke the whole fucking country and steal their oil. Need some weed man, need to mellow out.

Sounds like you need a lot more than some weed, ass whipe.


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Briguy
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posted 21 December 2005 08:57 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It's really too bad that troll showed up, because there is some really important discussion to be had about the Saudi sentence. Neither Canadian nor American political leaders are suggesting we isolate the Saudi government over this (and worse) judgements. Imagine the official uproar if this sentence came out of Syria, as an example.
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CHCMD
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posted 21 December 2005 09:25 AM      Profile for CHCMD   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Briguy:
It's really too bad that troll showed up,

Whersatroll, whereisit, don'tseeit, did see a guy fighting THC withdrawl, but no troll . . .


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jeff house
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posted 21 December 2005 10:10 AM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The defendant in the Saudi case caused the victim to lose his eye.

So the Saudi Court imposed the Biblical punishment, an eye for an eye.

And you guys want Bush to criticize the Bible???
Say it's wrong?

He'd alienate his base.


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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 21 December 2005 10:26 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by jeff house:
The defendant in the Saudi case caused the victim to lose his eye.

So the Saudi Court imposed the Biblical punishment, an eye for an eye.

And you guys want Bush to criticize the Bible???
Say it's wrong?

He'd alienate his base.


You'd be amazed at the number of Americans I have met that enthusiastically endorse this kind of punishment.


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 21 December 2005 11:08 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Jeff's post got me wondering if there is any movement (or tiny group even) advocating adopting Biblical law in the US.

We've seen how the Old Testament Right has taken over the White House; will something similar ever happen to the Constitution?


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Hephaestion
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posted 21 December 2005 02:20 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
"The Constitution is only a piece of paper."

-- G.W. Bush

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Cueball
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posted 21 December 2005 02:23 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I don't think that quote has been confirmed. I comes from Washington Blue, or something like that, which is about as substantiated as Frank Magazine. This does not mean that Frank Magazine does not get it right, but that this last quote is not substantiated, except by unamed sources.
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voice of the damned
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posted 22 December 2005 04:57 AM      Profile for voice of the damned     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
I don't think that quote has been confirmed. I comes from Washington Blue, or something like that, which is about as substantiated as Frank Magazine. This does not mean that Frank Magazine does not get it right, but that this last quote is not substantiated, except by unamed sources.

I think the website is called Capitol Hill Blue, and yeah, I wouldn't consider it the most credible source either.

For my money, it seems unlikely to me that Bush said that, and here's why: Bush strikes me as the kind of guy who, while having de facto contempt for what the constitution actually represents, would still hold the document itself in reverence, as part of the American "civic religion" pantheon. Sorta like the way some Christians might go around flouting every principle that Jesus ever taught, but would never dream of saying something like "that Jesus, what a panty-waist loser".

As well, I'm usually suspicious when something that sounds like a criticism of someone's policies is alleged to have come out of the mouth of the person himself. I have serious doubts, for example, that Stalin ever said "One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic".

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