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posted 02 December 2004 12:46 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
There ought to be a thread for this by now, but since I didn't find one:

The Pentagon on Tuesday denied that its forces at Guantánamo engaged in torture and said the detainees there, who now number about 550, were treated humanely.

Gen. Richard B. Myers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in a news conference in Indianapolis on Tuesday, dismissed accusations that the tactics amounted to torture.

"We certainly don't think it's torture," General Myers said before delivering a speech to the Economic Club of Indianapolis, according to the Web site of The Indianapolis Star. "Let's not forget the kind of people we have down there," he said. "These are the people that don't know any moral values."

In other words, animals, vermin, two-legged cockroaches, etc.


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Babbler # 690

posted 02 December 2004 10:04 AM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I wonder what the Muslims in Iraq think of the gringos. Well, they slice open their throats because apparently that is the humane way to kill a person in Islam. Sliced throats, illegal detentions in Gitmo, it's all morally relative.
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Babbler # 478

posted 02 December 2004 10:10 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
clockwork, that is way out of line on several counts, and you know it. All the "Muslims" in Iraq? The way of killing in Islam?

On the ICRC report, I just finished reading a NYReview of Books article on that report -- deeply sickening. I'll see if the NYR article is accessible online.

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Babbler # 4780

posted 02 December 2004 11:36 AM      Profile for FPTP        Edit/Delete Post,3604,1364249,00.html

On the other hand, some in the Pentagon finally get it:

"Pentagon experts have made a discovery: Muslims do not hate America's freedoms, but its policies"

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posted 02 December 2004 12:41 PM      Profile for dillinger   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
in related news: pentagon discovers gravity!

"things seem to fall when we drop them. it's amazing, really."

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Babbler # 478

posted 02 December 2004 01:05 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
FPTP: fascinating report. Thanks for that link.

In this conflict, "wholly unlike the cold war", the Bush administration's impulse has been to "imitate the routines and bureaucratic ... mindset that so characterised that era". So the US projects Iraqis and other Arabs as people to be liberated, like those "oppressed by Soviet rule". And the US accepts authoritarian Arab regimes as allies against the "radical fighters". All this is nothing less than a gigantic "strategic mistake".

"There is no yearning-to-be-liberated-by-the-US groundswell among Muslim societies - except to be liberated perhaps from what they see as apostate tyrannies that the US so determinedly promotes and defends."

There are people on babble, believe it or not , who can't seem to grasp this point either, obvious though it seems to so many of us.

Many of us have repeatedly been charged with being apologists for one autocratic state or another -- Saudi Arabia, for instance -- when it is blindingly clear that the tyrannical regimes in question are U.S. clients ... or is it the other way around?

I wonder whether the authors of this report are actually "in" the Pentagon or were simply hired as a board to do this work. Blumenthal doesn't seem to think that they will be much heard from again.

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