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Cueball
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posted 02 October 2004 05:45 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Freed Italian backs Iraqi resistance

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"I said it before the kidnapping and I repeat it today," she told Corriere della Sera newspaper in an interview published on Friday.

"You have to distinguish between terrorism and resistance. The guerrilla war is justified, but I am against the kidnapping of civilians."

[snip]

She said she did not know whether Italy bought her freedom from the captors: "If a ransom was paid, then I am very sorry. But I know nothing about it. I believe that [the captors] were a very political, religious group and that in the end they were convinced that we were not enemies."


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DrConway
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posted 02 October 2004 11:41 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Stockholm syndrome?
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 02 October 2004 12:17 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Why don't you ask Stockholm?
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skdadl
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posted 02 October 2004 12:25 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
That doesn't sound to me like Stockholm syndrome at all.

I think she believes what she says -- and she has certainly earned the benefit of the doubt. I'm not sure I could go as far as she has, but I don't feel qualified to criticize her, either.


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DrConway
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posted 02 October 2004 12:31 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
Why don't you ask Stockholm?

I'm referring to a rather well-documented phenomenon of transference of the kidnappers' viewpoints to the kidnappees.


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No Yards
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posted 02 October 2004 12:47 PM      Profile for No Yards   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by DrConway:

I'm referring to a rather well-documented phenomenon of transference of the kidnappers' viewpoints to the kidnappees.


Yeah? Still sounds like our Stockholm to me . . . Kidnapped by Israeli apologists is my guess.


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The two Simonas are members of an antiwar Italian NGO. Bully for Simona for sticking to her guns - remember, she does speak out against taking civilians hostage. But that said, like Robert Fisk, who was badly beaten by Afghan refugees as a Westerner although he is sympathetic to their plight, the two Simonas were damned lucky. A lot of fundamentalists would not have made such a distinction and would not have hesitate to kill the Italian aid workers in punishment for Berlusconi's policies.
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skdadl
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Yes, she is gutsy, but she is also at least partly lucky -- although maybe she "made" her luck. I would like to think so.

The Simonas did not change their political views: that is the point. Stockholm syndrome applies more to someone like Patty Hearst, who ended up sympathizing with people who had brutalized her and with whom she was not in sympathy before.

I can well imagine that the Simonas will insist on tweaking Berlusconi's nose in spite of this episode -- and good for them.


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Cueball
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posted 02 October 2004 05:43 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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I'm referring to a rather well-documented phenomenon of transference of the kidnappers' viewpoints to the kidnappees.


Yes but she said that she held the view before her kidnap, so it is unlikely. She does not describe a moment of epiphany.

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