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josh
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posted 03 December 2003 02:25 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
"The government of Israel has approved the construction of more than 1,720 new houses in Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip this year, according to critics of the settlements who say they undercut a U.S.-backed peace plan that mandates a freeze on settlement expansion.

The planned building is in addition to at least 1,000 homes and other infrastructure projects under construction in the West Bank, which Israel is also encircling with a massive fence complex, according to groups and officials that monitor settlement activity."

"I've never seen settlement expansion at such a rate, ever," said Mustafa Barghouti, a Palestinian political analyst, who claimed that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is pushing ahead with settlements while the peace process drags on. "He's stealing time to impose his own facts on the ground by practically annexing more than half the West Bank" with the fence project, Barghouti added, "and imposing ghettoization on Palestinian villages that will mean the destruction of a two-state solution."

"In addition to 635 new homes approved before the Aqaba summit, the Israeli government has approved the construction of at least 1,092 more in the West Bank since adopting the road map, according to Peace Now, a group that is critical of settlements and that monitors housing construction contracts. The total of 1,727 homes approved so far this year is roughly the same as in the previous two years, before Israel adopted the road map, according to the Foundation for Middle East Peace, a Washington-based research group that monitors settlement policy."

"Sharon was one of its chief architects. Since he became prime minister, the number of settlers has grown almost 20 percent -- totaling about 230,000 today -- and the number of settlement outposts has more than doubled, to 102, according to data compiled Peace Now."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29686-2003Dec2.html


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evenflow
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posted 03 December 2003 03:30 PM      Profile for evenflow        Edit/Delete Post
Israel wants peace. And it would happen, if only those pesky Palestinians would just give up their freedoms and land more peacefully...
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worker_drone
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posted 03 December 2003 03:58 PM      Profile for worker_drone        Edit/Delete Post
You mean their freedom to murder civilians in Tel Aviv pizza parlours built on "Palestinian land"?
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Sara Mayo
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posted 03 December 2003 04:13 PM      Profile for Sara Mayo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
No that's not what evenflow said.

w_d, this thread is about settlements. If you have something to say about the topic go ahead.

I can't understand Sharon's long-term stategy on this (does he have one). Further upsetting the US won't help his party. I thought new settlements were in most sectors of Israeli society fairly unpopular? If so, this can't help him electorally either. Or does it?

[ 03 December 2003: Message edited by: Sara Mayo ]


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josh
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posted 03 December 2003 08:09 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Sara Mayo:

I can't understand Sharon's long-term stategy on this (does he have one). Further upsetting the US won't help his party. I thought new settlements were in most sectors of Israeli society fairly unpopular? If so, this can't help him electorally either. Or does it?

[ 03 December 2003: Message edited by: Sara Mayo ]



His strategy is to simply "run out the clock," so to speak. To create facts on the ground that he believes will be irreversible. He will stall and create distractions to forestall ever reaching an agreement with the Palestinians. Why? Because he knows they will never accept his idea of a Palestinian state.

As for the reaction of the public, the majority don't agree with the settlement expansion. But there is little they can do to stop it because the Israeli electoral system gives disproportionate influence to extremists like the settlers. When the elected Sharon, ostensibly for security reasons, they elected his ideological soulmates, whose only interest is colonizing the west bank, as well.


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WingNut
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posted 03 December 2003 08:17 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Further upsetting the US won't help his party.

What is important is that it won't hurt him either.

The US has no bite when it comes to Israel and Sharon knows it. Just consider that the US has condmened the wall in words but not in deeds even abstaining from a UN resolution.

The US was silent while Israel developed weapons of mass destrcuction and remains silent. The US government is complicit in this and any criticism they provide is merely lip service.

What is more disturbing is the growing "facts on the ground" preclude a two state solution. Yet if you point this out you are either antisemitic or a self-hating Jew.


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Michelle
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posted 03 December 2003 09:27 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by worker_drone:
You mean their freedom to murder civilians in Tel Aviv pizza parlours built on "Palestinian land"?

Quit trolling.


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