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WingNut
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posted 18 June 2003 10:23 AM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post

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American troops opened fire on ex-Iraqi soldiers protesting against the loss of their jobs in Baghdad today, reportedly killing two men.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,979905,00.html

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RookieActivist
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posted 18 June 2003 06:19 PM      Profile for RookieActivist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
This is my favourite line from The Globe and Mail version:

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Another spokesman later said that two Iraqis had died in spite of U.S. medical attention.

They were probably asked to pay upfront.


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Gir Draxon
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posted 18 June 2003 11:08 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
How dare the US put Saddam's thugs out of a job????

It is clear that the US should have left Saddam in power. Cause these soldiers would be happy, right?


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WingNut
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posted 18 June 2003 11:52 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Most are conscripts who are now starving. I read an interesting quote today from an Iraqi. He said, and I am paraphrasing, the US is Saddam.

They are as cruel and as oppressive as the Saddam regime Even starving 100's of thousands of people (not like they haven't already done that, eh?).

I hope you are proud of your new, lying dictators Gir.


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Black Dog
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posted 19 June 2003 12:07 PM      Profile for Black Dog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Gir Draxon:
How dare the US put Saddam's thugs out of a job????

It is clear that the US should have left Saddam in power. Cause these soldiers would be happy, right?


Hey try reading the funny words. They tell you stuff.

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Mr Bremer's drive to destroy the legacy of Saddam Hussein's Ba'athist state apparatus has led to the loss of up to 400,000 jobs in the armed forces, security services, and information and defence ministries.

Critics say the sweeping policy fails to distinguish between the men who enforced Saddam's regime, the many who joined the party out of expediency and those who genuinely believed in its Arab nationalist ideology.

They say the policy has created a large pool of armed and resentful unemployed who may turn to crime or to fighting the US-led occupation, perhaps as part of a Ba'athist underground


Of course, if I may borrow your logic, based on the actions of some American soldiers, all members of the U.S. armed forces are trigger-happy who are just out for the kill.


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Tommy M
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posted 19 June 2003 01:06 PM      Profile for Tommy M     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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But the anti-democratic and flagrantly colonial nature of the new power in Iraq is undisguised. While Iraqi political parties are pressing for a broadly-based conference to elect a transitional government, the new US proconsul, Paul Bremer, is only prepared to tolerate a hand-picked Iraqi advisory council, while his occupation authority ploughs ahead with shaping the free market, pro-western order the US plans to impose on the ruins of an independent Iraq.

The senior coalition "adviser" to the Iraqi industry ministry, Tim Carney, declared this month that the occupation authorities will press ahead with the privatisation of dozens of state-owned companies within a year, pre-empting the decision of any future elected Iraqi government. And the Bush administration, fresh from handing out contracts to White House corporate cronies, has let it be known it aims to reverse the historic nationalisation of Iraqi oil before it's finished with "reconstruction".

What freedoms have been allowed are now being reined in, with censorship of press and television. Bremer has even issued a decree outlawing any "gatherings, pronouncements or publications" that call for opposition to the US occupation. All of which is a clear sign that the US administration is far from confident it can control the direction of Iraqi politics.


The right to resist


But it's all okay, they now have a Burger King.


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jeff house
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posted 19 June 2003 01:38 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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The senior coalition "adviser" to the Iraqi industry ministry, Tim Carney, declared this month that the occupation authorities will press ahead with the privatisation of dozens of state-owned companies within a year, pre-empting the decision of any future elected Iraqi government.

If the US actually sells off significant Iraqi state companies, such as the oil industry, or other significant industries, there can be no claim for the next generation that Iraq is "democratic". Supporting democracy means demanding the Iraqi people control their own resources, and make the important decisions about them.


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Black Dog
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posted 19 June 2003 02:25 PM      Profile for Black Dog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Iraqis vow revenge

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Cursing America, scores of gunmen fired in the air on Thursday at the funeral of a former Iraqi air force man killed by U.S. troops during a violent protest in Baghdad.

"Revenge! Revenge!" several hundred mourners shouted as men with Kalashnikov assault rifles fired volleys into the air, in defiance of a U.S. ban on carrying weapons in Iraq.

"There is no god but Allah, America is the enemy of Allah," mourners chanted as they followed the coffin of Tareq Mohammed, one of two men shot dead at a demonstration on Wednesday.



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