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Doug
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posted 05 June 2003 02:01 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
A short, interesting look into a career that fortunately no longer exists in Canada.

"Al-Beshi describes himself as a family man. Married before he became an executioner, his wife did not object to his chosen profession. “She only asked me to think carefully before committing myself,” he recalls. “But I don’t think she’s afraid of me,” he smiles. “I deal with my family with kindness and love. They aren’t afraid when I come back from an execution. Sometimes they help me clean my sword.”"

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Smith
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posted 05 June 2003 05:47 PM      Profile for Smith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Fundamentalists are creepy.
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al-Qa'bong
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posted 05 June 2003 06:50 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Capital punishment is creepy.
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Michelle
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posted 05 June 2003 07:31 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The gathering around cleaning the sword as quality time with the family sounds pretty creepy to me.
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'lance
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posted 05 June 2003 07:43 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
A perfect illustration of how the monstrous can easily come to seem banal.

There's a Morley Callaghan story, "Two Fishermen," which is about an executioner. Even if the fisherman symbolism is overripe, the point of the story (as I remember it) is just what ordinary, even gentle and appealing, man he is. Just doing his job, albeit with some anonymity, and moving on.


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scrabble
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posted 05 June 2003 07:51 PM      Profile for scrabble     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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An executioner’s life, of course, is not all killing. Sometimes it can be amputation of hands and legs. “I use a special sharp knife, not a sword,” he explains. “When I cut off a hand I cut it from the joint. If it is a leg the authorities specify where it is to be taken off, so I follow that.”

blurgh.

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Smith
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posted 05 June 2003 11:45 PM      Profile for Smith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Capital punishment is creepy.

And how.

The thing is, I'd like to hope most people would find this barbaric, but I'll bet it's not really any grosser or more painful than death by firing squad, hanging, lethal gas, or electrocution, all of which are accepted methods of execution in "civilized" countries.


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PitPat
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posted 05 June 2003 11:55 PM      Profile for PitPat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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The thing is, I'd like to hope most people would find this barbaric, but I'll bet it's not really any grosser or more painful than death by firing squad, hanging, lethal gas, or electrocution, all of which are accepted methods of execution in "civilized" countries.



Yeah but where this chap hails from they do executions in public. Plus hand choppings and floggings. Before a crowd. We in the west are either long since past doing that or not quite there yet.


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'lance
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posted 05 June 2003 11:57 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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The thing is, I'd like to hope most people would find this barbaric, but I'll bet it's not really any grosser or more painful than death by firing squad, hanging, lethal gas, or electrocution, all of which are accepted methods of execution in "civilized" countries.

Agreed. With the proviso that no country with the death penalty can really call itself civilized.

The death penalty is bad enough, but I find something particularly off-putting, horrifying, about attempts to find "humane" methods of execution -- lethal injections, etc.

Did you know that when someone is executed by lethal injection, the needle can't be inserted by a doctor, because of their ethical code? So it's got to be done, typically, by an orderly or some such from the prison hospital, and therefore there have been cases of some half-trained dolt poking around for quite some time before locating a vein.

Furthermore -- just to highlight the absurdity of all this -- prior to the needle being injected, the prisoner's arm is swabbed with alcohol, to prevent infection. True.

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clersal
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posted 06 June 2003 12:01 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
If we compare our methods of execution to the middle east, we miss the point of Mr Bong. 'Capital Punishment is creepy.'
Our whole penal system is creepy. We must put our efforts to prevention not punishment.

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Ray Peterson
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posted 06 June 2003 09:24 AM      Profile for Ray Peterson   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Agreed. With the proviso that no country with the death penalty can really call itself civilized.

I believe any country that allows murderers or child molesters or rapists back on the streets can't really call itself civilized.


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Smith
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posted 06 June 2003 08:50 PM      Profile for Smith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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I believe any country that allows murderers or child molesters or rapists back on the streets can't really call itself civilized.

Ah, yes, the false dichotomy. Hello, Logical Fallacies 101.


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Ray Peterson
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posted 07 June 2003 09:36 AM      Profile for Ray Peterson   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Ah, yes, the false dichotomy. Hello, Logical Fallacies 101.

Are you saying that doesn't happen ?


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Smith
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posted 07 June 2003 01:18 PM      Profile for Smith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I'm saying that we do not have to choose between letting murderers and rapists roam the streets and killing them. There are other options. To suggest otherwise is dishonest.

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