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audra trower williams
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posted 19 February 2003 02:15 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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7. What percent of US military spending would ensure the essentials of life to everyone in the world, according the UN?
10% (that's about $40 billion, the amount of funding initially requested to fund our retaliatory attack on Afghanistan).

49 more, here.


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Sisyphus
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posted 19 February 2003 03:08 PM      Profile for Sisyphus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Great compilation, Audra!
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dale cooper
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posted 19 February 2003 03:20 PM      Profile for dale cooper     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
What happened to #43 and #49 though?
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audra trower williams
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posted 19 February 2003 06:49 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Um. Good question.
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mandrake
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posted 19 February 2003 07:05 PM      Profile for mandrake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Question 7 is right on the mark. It's too bad that despots and fundamentalist fanatics force free and democratic countries to waste so much money defending themselves.

Question 45. How many nuclear warheads does Iraq have? 0.

How could the author possibly know this to such a degree of certainty, when nobody else does?

Question 51. How much money do terrorists waste on arms and training, that could otherwise be diverted to helping their own suffering and oppressed people? Billions of dollars!


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WingNut
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posted 19 February 2003 07:10 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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It's too bad that despots and fundamentalist fanatics

Like Sharon, you mean?

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cynic
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posted 19 February 2003 07:26 PM      Profile for cynic     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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17. How many casualties did the Iraqi military inflict on the western forces during the Gulf War ?
0

Gotta take issue with this one. An Iraqi SCUD killed a bunch of US troops on the last day of the war, hitting a barracks.


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kuba walda
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posted 19 February 2003 07:29 PM      Profile for kuba walda        Edit/Delete Post
Better question would be how many of their so called allies will be killed by there so called smart bombs.

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27. Was the U.S and the UK at war with Iraq between December 1998 and September 1999?
No

What's the purpose of that question? Does it have to do with the number of bombings in the no fly zone?????????????


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darkhorse
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posted 19 February 2003 09:00 PM      Profile for darkhorse     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It's too bad they didn't list their sources. A few are debatable like number 12 and 48.
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CyberNomad
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posted 19 February 2003 09:29 PM      Profile for CyberNomad     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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32. How many Iraqis are estimated to have died by October 1999 as a result of UN sanctions?
1.5 million

Hole E Tow Lee Dough! 1,500,000 deaths by UN sanctions! And counting! I would say that that is a crime against humanity. So, how do we haul the UN to the ICJ?

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Doug M.
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posted 19 February 2003 09:56 PM      Profile for Doug M.        Edit/Delete Post
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32. How many Iraqis are estimated to have died by October 1999 as a result of UN sanctions?
1.5 million
33. How many Iraqi children are estimated to have died due to sanctions since 1997?
750,000


...So here we go again. In this thread, I provided pretty compelling arguments/sources demonstrating that these numbers are complete garbage, and asked if anyone had ANY evidence whether there was ANY merit at all to such numbers. As you can see, no responses. Unfortunately, my thread seems to have also failed in its other purpose, to shame people into toning down the propaganda on this issue. Audra, do you (or whoever put together that list) have any sources?

Given the fact that I was unable to find any, and given the other dubious claims in the list (question 17 mentioned in a prior post, for example) I doubt that you do have sources.

The anti-war movement has legitimate and compelling arguments; why voluntarily resort to lies? And, not merely blurted out in some half-assed post, but put on a website, and framed in a manner that suggests you actually have evidence. How can you claim to be any better than the trolls you kick off this board?

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cadre
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posted 21 February 2003 01:26 PM      Profile for cadre        Edit/Delete Post
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7. What percent of US military spending would ensure the essentials of life to everyone in the world, according the UN?
10% (that's about $40 billion, the amount of funding initially requested to fund our retaliatory attack on Afghanistan).

It's hard to imagine how only US$7 per person per year could ensure the essentials of life to everyone in the world.


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sheep
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posted 21 February 2003 01:44 PM      Profile for sheep     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
How to convince Bush of the way out without a war going on? Well, you could post a lot of links to various real and imagined American atrocities around the planet. That's always convincing.

Bush is a cowboy. Cowboys never go in guns blazing. If the townsfolk are too quaking in their boots that the bad guys are going to ride into town and get them, Clint would head back to the ranch and get on with his business until they came crawling back begging for help. Or not. The rest of the world has to come up with a better course of action than "no war" to get cowboy Bush to back down though.

I think the United States needs to pull back from the region a bit and resolve the Israeli/Palestinian issue as well. And do it right after Iraq. They then need to go back to a naval presence in the Gulf. Maybe shift to Israel, or Egypt, away from muslim holy land.

I think the US needs the UN. And the world definitely needs America. The gang up on the US is not the way to go. Some appreciation amongst all the criticism may work a whole lot better than crying monster.


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ronb
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With Perle and Wolfowitz driving the bus, it's becoming increasingly clear what the Bush Administration's preferred resolution to the Israeli/Palestinian issue is, and it doesn't look like one that's likely to bring any stability to the Arab world.

It would be nice if the US took a more balanced International approach once they've finished invading and occupying Iraq, but I'm pretty sure we'll have to see a regime change in Washington before that will happen.


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Jingles
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posted 21 February 2003 03:28 PM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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I think the US needs the UN.

Of course itdoes.


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