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Babbler # 1292

posted 16 February 2003 02:00 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
"In an interview with The Observer, Kanan Makiya, an adviser to Iraq's main opposition group, the Iraqi National Congress, said America now appeared to have dumped its commitment to bring Western-style democracy to Iraq. Instead, under pressure from Saudi Arabia and the Arab Gulf states, Washington was preparing to leave Iraq under the control of President Saddam Hussein's Baath Party.",12239,896778,00.html

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posted 16 February 2003 03:11 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
See how complicated things are about to become?

First, the U.S. good guys and bad guys are about to switch places:

The Pentagon and the vice-president Dick Cheney are broadly in favour of introducing Western-style democracy to Iraq but the State Department under Colin Powell and the CIA believe it could have a destabilising influence on the region.

Iraq's neighbours, Saudi Arabia and Turkey, are also vehemently opposed to any federal arrangement that gives power to Iraq's Kurds or Shiites.

Then, Chalabi is supporting Blair, even though he believes that Blair and the Americans are wrong to leave the Sunni elite in place.

And this guy, Khalilzad:

But their vision of a post-Saddam administration is deeply at odds with proposals set out last week by President George Bush's special envoy to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad - and apparently endorsed by the Foreign Office. Under the plan a US military governor would rule post-war Iraq for up to a year.

The infrastructure of Saddam's ruling Baath party would remain largely intact, with the top two officials in each Iraqi ministry replaced by US military officers.

'The plan is bizarre. It is Baathism with an American face,' said Makiya, an Iraqi author and professor at Brandeis University in Massachusetts.

Have we not been reading about Khalilzad for the last two years, as the single Iraqi opportunist the U.S. admin has been able to find and absorb? Mainly because the CIA is so bad at developing its own staff of native speakers and knowledgable thinkers?

Apparently Makiya's full paper is available somewhere else on the Guardian site today -- well worth reading, one is sure.

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posted 17 February 2003 02:49 AM      Profile for Moredreads     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Kurdish leaders are deeply alarmed by US intentions, which only became clear at a meeting in Ankara earlier in the month and from recent public declarations by US officials. Hoshyar Zebari, a veteran Kurdish leader, said: "If the US wants to impose its own government, regardless of the ethnic and religious composition of Iraq, there is going to be a backlash."

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posted 17 February 2003 07:33 AM      Profile for satana     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I knew it! I knew it! See?! Nothing to do with "regime change". The least they could do is get rid of the Ba'th party (the only redeeming affect of a war). Of course "it could have a 'destabilising' influence on the region." [read: anti-imperialist backlash] Now, they're talking about "Baathism with an American face"!!! !@#$*spit*!&#$#&*gag*
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