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kingblake
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posted 16 December 2004 02:11 PM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I would've posted this earlier, but I assumed that someone else from the Club 2154 would've beaten me to it.
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The first version of my new website is up. Being a blog, I hope it to be very dynamic.
Something new will be up almost every day.

For now, the structure of the website is in French but I will be posting messages
sometimes in one language, sometimes in another, sometimes both (with spanish to
follow one day I hope).

Please use the "comments" ("commentaires") to add your thoughts, share your ideas
on the subject, link to other websites. Use the language that you wish.

This is just the very beggining of, I hope, a very important long term project.

www.pierreducasse.ca/ecodema/


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candle
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posted 17 December 2004 11:55 PM      Profile for candle     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Hey nice work Pierre (and Clement). I think mixing the French and English up is a great idea (rather than having a French blog and English blog or translating everything). I will have to dust off my high school French (I can get the gist of much of what is written) but that is definately a good thing (and something I should have done long ago).

Thanks kingblake for pointing this out (I'm not a member of club 2154 though as Pierre was second on my ballot behind JoeCo; I was thinking of putting Pierre first but I wasn't sure if Joe was going to survive past the first ballot and I really wanted to vote for him)


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sgm
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posted 18 December 2004 12:50 AM      Profile for sgm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I spent a few minutes visiting this blog today, and I would agree with the other posters that it's well worth a look. The material on workers' control over pensions is particularly interesting.

Keep it coming, Pierre.


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redlion
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posted 18 December 2004 09:45 PM      Profile for redlion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Good show Pierre, This is exactly the sort of discussion that we need - worker coops, pension fund socialism, self-management - to help revitalize the left and end the false choice between statism (traditional choice of the left) and pandering to the corporate system (usual choice of the "Turd Way" types.
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Alan Avans
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posted 20 December 2004 02:41 PM      Profile for Alan Avans   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Let me add my southern accented voice in the choir of praises to Pierre Ducasse's Economic Democracy for the Americas weblog. Woohoo!!

One of you mentioned the left's traditional false choice, devil's dilemma, what have you. No reason to get caught up in it. It is kind of interesting to survey how certain social democratic administrations and social economies have gotten their start...and as often as not it has been through non-statist means. In fact a case can and should be made that the development of social economies often lead to genuine political empowerment and even statehood for people who wouldn't otherwise have it.

Sweden: It took a Conservative government to actually nationalise steel and shipping in Sweden. The previously governing SAP wasn't exactly prolific in nationalising industry. Nor were Sweden's social democrats prolific at setting macro-economic policy, as this was done by Sweden't Labor Organisation and Employers' organisation at a one table economy-wide negotiation for several decades.

Basque Country: Mondragon's cooperative complex was established over time in spite of Spain's fascist state. It has been the engine of economic growth in the Basque Autonomous Region for decades. Political ships are steered with economic rudders, and one could argue that Mondragon shares control of that rudder in Basque Country.

Israel: The Histadrut stands out at the social economy that built the State of Israel. It erected Israel's industries and provided universal social services including healthcare for close to 70 percent of Israel's population.

Emilia-Romagna Italy: a vast network of thousands of small firms, many of them worker cooperatives, clustered in many industrial districts and by all customary economic indicators kicking major economic arse. All of this thanks to the enlightenment of a Communist Party that realised that perhaps markets under socialism are a different animal entirely from markets under neo-liberal corporatism. Probably the only Communist Party that actually did anyone any good at all. Perhaps Antonio Gramsci is La Lega's guardian angel.

Other examples could be given right here in North America, even if they're not quite as decisive in result. The social democratic Non-Partisan League of North Dakota not only took over the Republican Party in much of the upper Midwestern USAmerica it also founded a bank, cooperative industries and cooperative stores.

Quebec...boy, now that's the densest social economic real estate on the planet outside of Israel and Bologna. And one could argue that it is the reason that a sovereigntist movement can exist in Quebec with any credibility whatsoever.

Utah. Yep, Utah. 19th Century Mormons were quite engaged in building a social economy they called a "United Order" in Utah. It literally built Utah. Without the Brigham City cooperative complex, Zion's Cooperative Merchantile Institution and the network of Boards of Trade established by LDS Church leaders in Utah it is quite doubtful that a state called Utah would exist at all, that is how important it was the founding of a Mormon identity out of a bunch of Scandinavian and British immigrants.

I'm sure there are other examples that have escaped my recall for the moment.

Regards
Alan Avans
Prairie Village KS

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