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ceti
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posted 17 January 2006 12:03 AM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
A very pessimistic prognosis from James Lovelock, the originator of the Gaia Theory, who claims we may be beyond the point of no return. Basically, he thinks we should begin planning for a catastrophic 21st century, even as we continue to combat climate change.

Lovelock is a serious and sober scientist, so his alarming conclusions are quite scary:

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Thirty years ago, the scientist James Lovelock worked out that the Earth possessed a planetary-scale control system which kept the environment fit for life. He called it Gaia, and the theory has become widely accepted. Now, he believes mankind's abuse of the environment is making that mechanism work against us. His astonishing conclusion - that climate change is already insoluble, and life on Earth will never be the same again.
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He says: "We have to keep in mind the awesome pace of change and realise how little time is left to act, and then each community and nation must find the best use of the resources they have to sustain civilisation for as long as they can." He believes that the world's governments should plan to secure energy and food supplies in the global hothouse, and defences against the expected rise in sea levels. The scientist's vision of what human society may ultimately be reduced to through climate change is " a broken rabble led by brutal warlords."
The Independent

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CMOT Dibbler
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posted 17 January 2006 12:15 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Lovelock is the guy who thinks that nukes are environmentally friendly.
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M. Spector
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posted 17 January 2006 03:20 AM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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libertarian
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posted 17 January 2006 12:22 PM      Profile for libertarian        Edit/Delete Post
Kind of makes this election look irrelevant.
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rockerbiff
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posted 17 January 2006 12:54 PM      Profile for rockerbiff   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The ultimate "I told you so"....
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rinne
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posted 17 January 2006 02:06 PM      Profile for rinne     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Cause and effect, karma.

We are not the final product or the finest result of evolution and may too pass into extinction but while here how shall we live and what do we support? What world will our children and grandchildren find?

I suspect what he has to say will be dismissed by those who would, by their greed, hurtle us ever faster in this direction.


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libertarian
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posted 17 January 2006 02:12 PM      Profile for libertarian        Edit/Delete Post
But there are still record cold temps being measured: http://tinyurl.com/abpfe
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Bobolink
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posted 17 January 2006 02:27 PM      Profile for Bobolink   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by CMOT Dibbler:
Lovelock is the guy who thinks that nukes are environmentally friendly.

Well, they are. Compared to any other form of electrical generation with the possible exception of geothermal and wind power, they are far less envronmentally damaging than building hydro-electric dams or fossil hydrocarbon burning power plants.


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Albireo
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posted 17 January 2006 02:30 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Say, shouldn't this thread be moved to the humanities and science forum... before earth becomes like Mars or Venus?
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libertarian
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posted 17 January 2006 02:34 PM      Profile for libertarian        Edit/Delete Post
Yes Good idea. I move that it be moved.
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