babble home
rabble.ca - news for the rest of us
today's active topics


Post New Topic  Post A Reply
FAQ | Forum Home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» babble   » current events   » national news   » Great moments in planned obsolescence.

Email this thread to someone!    
Author Topic: Great moments in planned obsolescence.
Black Dog
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2776

posted 02 December 2002 04:48 PM      Profile for Black Dog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Disposable DVDs.

quote:
The discs would create much waste. Flexplay conducted a study and found if destructible DVDs made up 10 per cent of all U.S. video rentals, it would mean 350 million DVDs added to the waste stream. The report said the environmental damage would be offset by fewer cars making return trips to the rental stores.

Oh for crying out loud.


From: Vancouver | Registered: Jun 2002  |  IP: Logged
Alix
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2279

posted 02 December 2002 04:53 PM      Profile for Alix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Blech!

That said, this really isn't a new idea. DIVEX was the previous technology that Disney was behind for a very long time (ever wonder why it took so long for the Disney movies to come to DVD?) In that case, they weren't self-destructive (I don't think), but you could only watch what was on it once, even (and particularly) if you bought it, and then you had to pay each additional time to watch it. It would also have created immense amounts of waste in probably the same way.

This goes right up there with Margaret Atwood's idea that we should pay copyright to borrow books from the library.


From: Kingston | Registered: Feb 2002  |  IP: Logged
DrConway
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 490

posted 02 December 2002 06:19 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Divx, by the way.
From: You shall not side with the great against the powerless. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Daoine
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 3321

posted 02 December 2002 08:05 PM      Profile for Daoine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yep. Which has been reappropriated by the "underground" to refer to innovative video compression
From: Gulag Alabamadze | Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged
DrConway
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 490

posted 02 December 2002 10:05 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As "DivX ;-)"

Some idiot "legal eagle" who fancied himself a smarty-pants in copyright and IP law but with absolutely zero understanding of human psychology or politics struck out bigtime on two predictions he made, and I got to rub it in his face a couple years later.

1. He claimed that Congress would not kill the "LaMacchia Loophole", named for a court case involving a man whose last name was LaMacchia, wherein the judge struck the charges against him on the basis that then-existing copyright law (circa 1996) did not ban the circulation of pirated software if no profit was incurred in the process. Indeed, LaMacchia's lawyer was able to prove that L. lost money on the cost of the FTP server and his Internet connection.

Two years later, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act closed exactly this loophole, explicitly making it a crime to violate copyright regardless of the monetary gain or lack of it.

2. He predicted that Sony/Circuit City's Divx would take off and be the DVD standard, even though it was abundantly clear that consumers hated the hell out of the idea. Corporations nickel-and-diming our "experiences" to death is just not on. And in fact, in 1997, Sony and CC quietly killed the Divx system, and all Divx-compliant DVD machines had their codes reset in 1998.

Just goes to show you that some lawyers just ain't got the ole grey matter. Fa fa fa


From: You shall not side with the great against the powerless. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Jacob Two-Two
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2092

posted 03 December 2002 04:47 AM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, it's a typical example of model-based planning.

Rather than observing behaviour and collecting consumer information, they construct a scenario in which they make an absolute killing (and consumers are the ones killed) confident that they can sell it to the public. Despite it having no advantages whatsoever for the consumer, they are still surprised that people will not just obey their business plan.

The arrogance is apalling.


From: There is but one Gord and Moolah is his profit | Registered: Jan 2002  |  IP: Logged

All times are Pacific Time  

Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | rabble.ca | Policy Statement

Copyright 2001-2008 rabble.ca