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meades
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posted 08 January 2002 07:50 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was I the only one who saw this? The rabble news article about a Montréal group of fascists publishing the names, addresses, and phone numbers of anti-racist activists?

What does someone do in this kind of situation?! The only thing I could think of was e-mail Hedy Fry, Secretary of State for Multiculturalism, and Sheila Copps about it (Multiculturalism is under the Heritage umbrella), asking if this wasn't in some way illegal. I assume it's probably already been done, though.

Is this real? geez, holy &$*!@#% #*@&!!!


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DrConway
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posted 08 January 2002 10:09 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Get used to it, meades. Alan Berg found out the hard way what happens when you dis the right wing.


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meades
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posted 08 January 2002 10:10 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
...Alan Berg...


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cosmiccommunist
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posted 08 January 2002 10:35 PM      Profile for cosmiccommunist   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well i think one legitimate response to this type of action is to start posting the names and addresses of neo-nazis throughout the communities in which they live and work. This tactic has been used fairly successfully in low-income neighbourhoods to "out" drug-dealers. It makes them just a little more uncomfortable, anyway.
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DrConway
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posted 08 January 2002 10:38 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Alan Berg, about.. shit, I dunno, 7 years ago? ran a radio show from a fairly leftist viewpoint. Had quite the audience.

Seems he dissed a conservative organization called the Aryan Nations. He was gunned down dead walking his dog in front of his house.


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Archimedes2000
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posted 08 January 2002 11:27 PM      Profile for Archimedes2000        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Alan Berg was a talk show host in Denver, on KOA radio station. KOA is a conservative talk radio station, currently home to Rush Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy, among others. KOA was also where black conservative Ken Hamblin got his start.

While Berg was fairly liberal, the Aryan Nations are 'conservative' only in the wildest of imaginations. You may want to ask Ken hamblin about this, he only worked with Alan Berg for years.


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clockwork
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posted 08 January 2002 11:49 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
the Aryan Nations are 'conservative' only in the wildest of imaginations.

That's 'cause, uh, they're socialist, right?

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Archimedes2000
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posted 09 January 2002 12:07 AM      Profile for Archimedes2000        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not certain what their political/economic position is. However, they do seem to share the same racial hatreds that the National Socialists did, and are as violence prone as the communists have been.

Is that helpful?


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Archimedes2000
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posted 09 January 2002 12:16 AM      Profile for Archimedes2000        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you are actually interested in Alan Berg, I'm sure ken Hamblin can be of some assistance. Here is his bio. You can click on the links to e-mail him.

http://www.hamblin.com/root/bio.html

I wonder how Ken, a self described black conservative, would react to hear his associate Alan Berg was killed by 'conservatives?


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clockwork
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posted 09 January 2002 01:25 AM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is sort of helpful, but you’d vehemently deny my interpretation of.

As for them being “conservative”, I think people (a lot of people, mind you) equate their anti-government, anti-abortion, homophobic, anti-affirmative action, anti gun control stance as being right wing. In fact, I believe the popular term for groups like this are “right wing militias”. John Ashcroft would definitely feel more comfortable with these people.

I’m sure Ken Hamblin would not appreciate being lumped into the same category as the Aryan Nation, but when people come to this board and call all of us socialists, I have a problem with that, too.


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Archimedes2000
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posted 09 January 2002 03:03 PM      Profile for Archimedes2000        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Aryan Nations are 'anti-abortion' and 'anti-gun control???'. They're 'like a militia'??

I'm curious, who exactly do you believe the Aryan Nations are?


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Trinitty
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posted 09 January 2002 03:20 PM      Profile for Trinitty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Most Aryan Nation groups I've researched are only anti-abortion for their own little gene pool for breeding purposes, not out of respect for human life, which is what MOST prolifers do indeed have have.

The Aryan Nation groups are all for the abortion of ALL non-white feotuses... thins out the numbers don't you know.

I take issue with prolifers being lumped in with homophobes and racists.


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clockwork
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posted 09 January 2002 05:54 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry, Trisha. I didn't thin to qualify the anti-abortion stance. Obviously the Aryan thought is a bit more nuanced than I give it credit for.

Archimedes, I’m not sure where I picked all that up.. I was looking at the literature about a specific group that was called “Aryan Nation”, started buy some guy through the “Church of Christ Christian”. I lumped them in as a militia (and so did a few analyses on “militias” because they where intent on an uprising to overthrow the government… like all those other wacko militias out there, or were out there, they deeply mistrusted the government (like, it was Jewish, or something).

One link I read said that the Aryan Nation was using issues like gun control, abortion, what-have-you as wedge issues to try to pick up more support. So, I was assuming they’d be of the anti-gun control, anti-abortion, anti-affirmative action lot. You know, being right-wing, Christian white boy, and all.

But if you’d like to claim that the Aryan Nation accepted gay people, thought gun control was a good idea and gave the thumbs up to affirmative action programs… well… I wouldn’t be surprised coming from you.


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LiMpY
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posted 09 January 2002 07:50 PM      Profile for LiMpY     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Aryan Nation was born out of the Aryan Brotherhood prison gang in the 1970s. It's just a fancy name for a bunch of aging Nazis, and current skinheads.
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