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judym
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posted 20 September 2001 10:00 PM      Profile for judym   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Wernher von Braun [was] the rocket scientist who invented and oversaw the production of the rocket-powered V-2 "vengeance weapons" that Germany rained on England during the Second World War ... After his capture by the Allies at war's end, he went on to direct America's mission to the moon.

... when Von Braun, former employee of Hitler as well as Kennedy, speaks of "great numbers ... trained to cooperate unfailingly" he leaves it to political leaders to figure out how such unstinting loyalty to a cause - any cause - can be engineered.


- from a piece on rabble news for Friday, September 21.


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DrConway
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posted 21 September 2001 12:05 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dr. Isaac Asimov knew of Werner von Braun's background, and states in his autobiography that he only ever met the man once and had to shake his hand out of politeness, but did so for the shortest time possible and refused to engage in conversation with the fellow.
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DrConway
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posted 21 September 2001 12:07 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oops. Double-post.

One thing that was honestly not accounted for by the architects and engineers who built the WTC was the possible growth in airplane sizes (and thus weights, and thus kinetic energies) and the possibility that jet fuel mixtures might be changed, allowing them to burn hotter and more intensely.

I would relaqy this to the author, since it seems to unfairly place blame on the architects and engineers who, in 1973 when the WTC towers were completed, had no way of foretelling the size of airplanes 20 years hence.

[ September 21, 2001: Message edited by: DrConway ]


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rasmus
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posted 21 September 2001 12:42 AM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
DrConway? A spelling error?

quote:
relaqy

I believe we have an impostor here. A pseudopseudofelinoid.


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DrConway
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posted 21 September 2001 01:38 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
*dies laughing*

[ September 21, 2001: Message edited by: DrConway ]


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judym
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posted 21 September 2001 01:43 AM      Profile for judym   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Just two weeks ago, the structural engineer who built the World Trade Center was in Frankfurt for a conference on skyscrapers, reassuring his audience that his towers - the tallest in the world when erected in 1970 - were well built to thwart terrorist attacks. To bring down his creation, declared Les Robinson, it would take more than a jet airliner.

Only problem, Dr, is that the engineer stuck to the claim a couple of weeks ago.


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DrConway
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posted 21 September 2001 01:46 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the exact phrase used was "a 707 airplane".

The planes used were 757s and I believe in one case, a 767.


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residentgadfly
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posted 21 September 2001 02:22 AM      Profile for residentgadfly        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For the entertainment of our audience: Please check following URLs, complete with dates:
http://www.abqjournal.com/aqvan09-11-01.htm

and
http://www.cnn.com/2001/COMMUNITY/09/13/rittenhouse.cnna/index.html

I did a search on Weidlinger Associates and came up with the following, among other stuff:


The new global marketplace challenges us to design safe and elegant structures for the lowest cost both at home and abroad. We use innovative technology to improve the competitive position of our clients.


Global Perspective
We have a long-term commitment to work overseas and to maintain our presence in Europe, Asia and the Middle East. Our key resources, creating many opportunities for us, are the range of our technologies and the diversity of our staff, who collectively speak more than fifty languages.


2/2001 - WEIDLINGER ASSOCIATES ESTABLISHES OFFICE IN WASHINGTON, DC TO BETTER SERVE GOVERNMENT CLIENTS; JERRY RASGUS APPOINTED REGIONAL MANAGER

(WASHINGTON, DC) - Weidlinger Associates, Inc., an international consulting engineering firm, has opened a new office in the heart of Washington, DC, and announced the appointment of Jerome W. Rasgus PE , AIA, as Regional Manager for the National Capitol Region.

The new office, located at 1030 15th Street NW, will enable Weidlinger to more easily access and serve its government clients, as well as providing the opportunity to develop new clients in the region. Mr. Rasgus, a Professional Engineer and Registered Architect with more than 30 years of industry experience, will oversee the opening of the new office as well as all DC-based projects.

"A variety of Mr. Rasgus' projects have already achieved national recognition thanks to his unique qualifications in computer-aided structural analysis and design experience," said Dr. Jeremy Isenberg, president and CEO of Weidlinger Associates. "He also has an equally strong background in construction administration and management. We are delighted to have him spearheading this new project."

Mr. Rasgus has worked in Washington, DC, most recently as the structural department head for the URS Corporation. Mr. Rasgus also served for 22 years as director of structural engineering for the Washington office of Skidmore Owings and Merrill. In the past, he has worked on such noteworthy projects as the FBI Washington Metropolitan Field Office, the complete renovation of the Commonwealth Tower in Arlington, VA, and the 28-story IBM Building in Baltimore. His recent projects include the North and West Flank Parking Garages at Dulles Airport and the adaptive re-use of the Pentagon Basement.
"The opening of this full service office signals our increasing activity within our nation's capital and the surrounding areas," Dr. Isenberg said.


Mr. Rittenhouse joined Weidlinger Associates in 1984 and has been a principal since 1995. He has been responsible for many large design projects and oversees the firm's blast engineering efforts. His projects include the EPA Research and Administrative Facility in Research Triangle Park, NC, the FBI Laboratory in Quantico, VA, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Laboratory in Jamaica, NY, and the York County Courthouse in York, PA.

As a blast engineer, Mr. Rittenhouse has provided protective design engineering for numerous embassies, courthouses and federal buildings including: the new Oklahoma City Federal Building, the Brooklyn Federal Courthouse and the Las Vegas Federal Courthouse; and the replacement of embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. He graduated from Fordham University with a BS in Physics and received his BSCE from Columbia University. He has authored numerous articles on terrorist and blast-resistant buildings.

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This firm was the one that was given the contract to rebuild the American embassies that were allegedly blown up by Mr. Bin Laden and his merry men in Africa. Was this article a 'payback'???

Or it might occur to somebody with a truly sinister mind that this very specialized brand of expertise might even be called upon BEFORE a disaster such as this.

It seems to ME that any American firm involved in that kind of work would have ties to the CIA.

An addition to THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMMMMNNNNNN.....


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skdadl
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posted 21 September 2001 09:12 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"I just send them up
Who knows where they come down?
That's not my department,"
Says Werner von Braun.

"In German,
Oder English
I know how to count down --
Und I'm learning Chinese,"
Says Werner von Braun.

-- Tom Lehrer


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Wants to listen
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posted 22 September 2001 01:42 PM      Profile for Wants to listen     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
seems that the good 'doctor' has made a few comments about there being an atack on 'america', do you live in the US, or Canada? Thought america was all of this continent, however as a Canadian, I do refer to people of the US as 'americans'. Not an attack, just an actof terrorism, that is what it is.
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