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DrConway
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posted 06 April 2003 01:21 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The *yawwwn* is because I'm still adjusting.

For those of you who forgot, the clocks moved ahead in every province except Saskatchewan. It is now 9:20 AM in British Columbia, for the record.

(Incidentally, I really *hate* the daylight saving time change and wish we had stayed on Standard Time)


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Michelle
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posted 06 April 2003 01:23 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You're not the only one!
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DrConway
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posted 06 April 2003 03:44 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Check it out.

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Many people seem to take the time change in stride, but I'm one of those folks who get a bad case of jet lag every time we "spring forward" in April. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature, and it's darn near impossible to trick my body into thinking it's an hour later than it is.

In my case, time always seems to move too fast on Daylight Savings, which is bad because it totally throws off my sense of pacing. It's especially acute because the changeover happens right as I commence to write final exams this week. Screws up my studying, it does.

Addendum:

One thing I *do* like is that the time change has become much more uniform since the early 1990s. It used to be in the late 80s/early 90s that some places wouldn't have their clocks set properly for at least a couple of days, and the Sunday right after the time change would just be a hodgepodge of schedule foul-ups. Now, the changeover is smoother and more automatic, partly because the advent of Windows on many PCs allows for an automatic reset of the clock without having to remember when the time change occurs. This in turn helps sync up the rest of the clocks out there.

[ 06 April 2003: Message edited by: DrConway ]


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Vee
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posted 06 April 2003 07:41 PM      Profile for Vee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My problem is remembering which weekends are the spring ahead/fall back times! Is there some little ditty to act as a reminder?
One year, I did not know that it was spring ahead time and was just getting out of bed when I was supposed to be at work to let my co-workers into the building! We still laugh about that every spring and now they make a point or two to remind me of my foibles.

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Michelle
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posted 06 April 2003 08:19 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have never had a problem with the clock changing until I had a child. But it's amazing how much difference an hour can make when it comes to screwing up bedtimes and internal sleep patterns on kids.

I appreciate the way daylight is put to better use with savings time, but man, there's nothing quite like spring with a 2 or 3 year old, when they're used to going to bed at a certain "darkness" time and then suddenly having to go earlier. They hate it. It's a lot easier to get them used to it gradually as the days get lighter than an hour of extra light all in one whoosh one night.


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Timebandit
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posted 07 April 2003 12:31 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm puzzled by the whole time change thing... If daylight savings is better, then why not just stay on it all year?

(We don't change our time in Saskatchewan. Every year there's a big debate, since some people want to do the time change. I don't really see the point.)


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shelby9
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posted 07 April 2003 02:55 PM      Profile for shelby9     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Zoot, didn't I read somewhere that Sask was going to have a vote on opting into the time change?

I'm still adjusting to the time zone change from Ontario to Alberta! I spent years remembering that AB was 2 hours behind ON, NOW I gotta go the other way! Then I get the time change to boot! Tricky!

I don't mind the time change, it's worth the extra hour of sleep in the Fall.

[ 07 April 2003: Message edited by: shelby9 ]


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Timebandit
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posted 07 April 2003 03:01 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Chamber of Commerce people are always nattering about having a vote on it. Happens every year.
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Jimmy Brogan
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posted 07 April 2003 03:06 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Daylight savings time is a great idea. Personally I would like to see another hour skipped ahead in mid May to give us those endless summer evenings I fell in love with in northern Europe.

Transferring useless morning daylight to the evenings is a no brainer for me.


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Mr. Magoo
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posted 07 April 2003 03:26 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've heard lots of people say that DST throws their internal clock off, but often these are the same people that will stay out until 3am drinking, sleep 4 hours past their usual wake-up time of 7am, skip lunch, eat a late dinner, then hit the hay early to prepare for work.

How come that never throws the ol' circadian rhythm off?


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skdadl
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posted 07 April 2003 03:41 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
THE CLOCK CHANGED???!!!

The people in this household who have rhythm are the kitties, and they approve very much of springing forward, hate falling back. To the former they adjust instantly; in the autumn, it takes a day or two.

As for this, Jimmy Brogan:

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useless morning daylight

For me, the most wonderful time of day -- gimme more.


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Mandos
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posted 07 April 2003 03:43 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hate mornings. I have to get up in the morning. Enough reason to hate them. I'm a night person.
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Timebandit
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posted 07 April 2003 06:47 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Daylight savings time is a great idea. Personally I would like to see another hour skipped ahead in mid May to give us those endless summer evenings I fell in love with in northern Europe.

I'm not dissing DST, just pointing out that if it's a good thing, why not switch once and stay switched? Why this waffling back and forth? Not tremendously sensible, from my POV.


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The Wizard of Socialism
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posted 07 April 2003 08:27 PM      Profile for The Wizard of Socialism   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Saskatchewan's elite (ie: members of the private Wascana Country Club & those who aspire to join them) want us to change our clocks so they get an extra hour on the green in their walled community world. Local gadabout Bob Hughes is leading the charge. To the devil that prompts 'em their treasonous parles! They'll take away my standard time when they pry it from my cold dead hands...
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Jimmy Brogan
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posted 07 April 2003 08:52 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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They'll take away my standard time when they pry it from my cold dead hands...

Fat cats aren't the only people who play golf. In fact most of us are just 9 - 5ers who could really use that extra daylight. Fat cats can play anytime they want.


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clockwork
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posted 07 April 2003 09:08 PM      Profile for clockwork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually, I was going to ask if DST was a N. American thing… my computer demanded my clock be set forward on Saturday which I thought was weird (but then, my computer runs on it's own time), so I did a quick search and found a Guardian article mentioning that the Americans were going to standard time.

Has this thing not caught on elsewhere? Do the Swede's think were whacked?


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TommyPaineatWork
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posted 07 April 2003 09:11 PM      Profile for TommyPaineatWork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The dawn is a magical time for me, too Skdadl. And while it wouldn't hurt me any to have it start at 3:00 AM, more people would get to enjoy it at a saner time like 6:00 AM.

One day when people well and truly have their poop together, we can all enjoy living in Jimmy Brogan/Tommy Paine's world of double daylight savings time, where we can cavort in the daylight untill almost eleven at night, and fewer people miss the summer magic of having the terminator pass over.

I think they tried double daylight savings time in NFLD one year, but they adjusted the clocks two hours at one go, not the best way of doing it.


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DrConway
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posted 08 April 2003 01:50 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Next October, when we go back to standard time, I want to stay on that permanently.

(I don't want to stay locked on daylight savings, because then it'll feel like time is perpetually going too fast. )


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Alix
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posted 08 April 2003 10:22 AM      Profile for Alix     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I was in Germany, oh, many years ago, they did go to daylight savings time too - but a good two or three weeks before Canada changed. It made phone calls home even more difficult.
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skdadl
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posted 08 April 2003 02:07 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I did a quick search and found a Guardian article mentioning that the Americans were going to standard time.

Yes, the Brits go on to what they call "summer time" as well, except weeks before we do -- maybe a month.

Winter in Scotland = sooo dark ... but the summer nights: ah! glorious!


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audra trower williams
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posted 08 April 2003 04:43 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
According to Staney Coren (of the University of British Columbia, and the author of "The Promise Of Sleep") car accidents -- and other kinds of accidental deaths -- increase with spring change (when people lose an hour of sleep) by 7%. They also decrease in the fall in the first few days after the clock is set back, again by 7%.
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'lance
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posted 08 April 2003 04:50 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Coren's funny. I heard him being interviewed when he was promoting that book. He was curious to know what happens to your senses when you go to sleep -- do they sort of fade out, or do they turn off all at once like lights? So he, uh, taped his eyelids open and went to sleep.

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Unfortunately, he didn't have someone there to put drops in his eyes, so they dried up, which was painful when he woke up.

I think he said his vision blanked out all at once when he fell asleep -- so far as he could remember -- but then I kind of fixated on the previous point, so I'm not sure.

And among other things, he's a dog trainer and dog expert, and author of the book How To Speak Dog.

[ 08 April 2003: Message edited by: 'lance ]


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Timebandit
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posted 08 April 2003 05:04 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, he's definitely weird. Although anybody who likes dogs can't be all bad.
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DrConway
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posted 08 April 2003 07:24 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Taped his... ooooookay.

Incidentally, Dr. Coren also noted that the spring forward AND the fall back both screw up peoples' internal clocks and car accidents go up on both time changes.


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DrConway
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posted 03 April 2004 07:12 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Time change again, folks! Clocks forward at 2 AM, et cetera.
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Michelle
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posted 03 April 2004 09:56 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sigh. It sucks to lose an hour of sleep! Gripe, whine, etc. Oh well, I've got a 3 hour bus ride tomorrow where I can make it up.
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verbatim
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posted 03 April 2004 10:13 PM      Profile for verbatim   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bastard! Reading the thread I thought I'd gotten the day wrong!
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