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Frustrated Mess
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posted 27 October 2008 03:29 PM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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With his father and a firearms instructor standing nearby, an 8-year-old Connecticut boy shot himself in the head with a submachine gun yesterday, killing himself in an accident some say should never have happened.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6121915&page=1

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posted 27 October 2008 04:49 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
an accident some say should never have happened

As opposed to others who say it should have??


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M. Spector
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posted 27 October 2008 05:49 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is what the instructor handed the 8-year-old boy to try out:


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TVParkdale
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posted 27 October 2008 06:09 PM      Profile for TVParkdale     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frustrated Mess:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6121915&page=1

I can't help myself...I have to say it...

Good to see inbreeding is a thriving practise amongst the NRA...
...and I don't mean the kid who shot himself.

[i need my script refilled. sorry]


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janfromthebruce
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posted 27 October 2008 06:13 PM      Profile for janfromthebruce     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At a trade show, the thing was loaded?? Unbelievably stupid. Father will never be able to live with himselffffffffffff
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Jingles
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posted 27 October 2008 06:55 PM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
These things happen....

To really, really stupid people.

Do you think the father will rethink his whole gun fetish thingy now?


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posted 27 October 2008 09:50 PM      Profile for old_bolshie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Originally posted by janfromthebruce:
At a trade show, the thing was loaded?? Unbelievably stupid. Father will never be able to live with himselffffffffffff

It wasn't just a Trade Show it was a shootin' show as well people were offered the chance to shoot @ cars and pumpkins!

Machine guns-and that thing is more correctly called a machine pistol-kick up a lot when fired a person has to aim low/compensate to hit anything.

There's no way an 8 year old is strong enough to hold a 2 kg Uzi straight when it's being fired well neither could a lot of adults.

Sad, sad, sad.....


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Coyote
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posted 27 October 2008 10:40 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, that is just devastating. That poor child.
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posted 27 October 2008 11:47 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by TVParkdale:

Good to see inbreeding is a thriving practise amongst the NRA...

The NRA are fairly big on gun safety so I doubt they'd agree that 8-year olds should be firing Uzis. They just don't like the government requiring that 8 year-olds don't fire Uzis.


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posted 28 October 2008 11:37 AM      Profile for angrymonkey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
we did our jobs..we run a safe club


in the comments section-

"For those of you who haven't shot an Uzi: When I was in the army and was taken to my first Uzi range, the gun was put on its single bullet setting,meaning that after one's first encounter with the the gun's backlash one wouldn't end up hurting anyone with the consecutive bullet.

In my fire range (of ten soldiers), one of the soldiers was knocked off to the side by not being physically prepared to know how to deal with the backlash - a very common event for first time shooters . The thought of an 8 year old not only handling an Uzi - which is crazy enough, but an Uzii on an Automatic setting is criminal no less."


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posted 28 October 2008 11:48 AM      Profile for Toby Fourre        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Really, both the father and the "firearms instructor" should go to jail. Their lack of responsibility is criminal.
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posted 28 October 2008 12:16 PM      Profile for janfromthebruce     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by old_bolshie:

It wasn't just a Trade Show it was a shootin' show as well people were offered the chance to shoot @ cars and pumpkins!

Machine guns-and that thing is more correctly called a machine pistol-kick up a lot when fired a person has to aim low/compensate to hit anything.

There's no way an 8 year old is strong enough to hold a 2 kg Uzi straight when it's being fired well neither could a lot of adults.

Sad, sad, sad.....


You were pretty cute as a kid


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posted 28 October 2008 12:18 PM      Profile for janfromthebruce     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Toby Fourre:
Really, both the father and the "firearms instructor" should go to jail. Their lack of responsibility is criminal.

The father will be in jail for the rest of his living life - in his mind.


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posted 28 October 2008 12:19 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh! come on... The father will remain well protected from any sanction - let alone jail - because, in a patriarchy, he is either entitled to his child's life (traditional Abraham model), or deemed to suffer more than anyone from whatever harm comes to the child, even through his own criminal negligence (current sensitive dad model).
Also father-son-gun relationships are pretty near sacred.

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TVParkdale
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posted 28 October 2008 01:11 PM      Profile for TVParkdale     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by angrymonkey:
we did our jobs..we run a safe club


in the comments section-

"For those of you who haven't shot an Uzi: When I was in the army and was taken to my first Uzi range, the gun was put on its single bullet setting,meaning that after one's first encounter with the the gun's backlash one wouldn't end up hurting anyone with the consecutive bullet.

In my fire range (of ten soldiers), one of the soldiers was knocked off to the side by not being physically prepared to know how to deal with the backlash - a very common event for first time shooters . The thought of an 8 year old not only handling an Uzi - which is crazy enough, but an Uzii on an Automatic setting is criminal no less."


A ***LOADED*** Uzi on automatic.

To the person who claimed the NRA is all for "gun safety"--prove to me that dear dad and the arms dealer were NOT members of the NRA.

Since when does the NRA demand that potential members attend and complete a course for a firearms safety certificate BEFORE receiving membership?

'Nuff said.

Criminal negligence causing death by both father and gun seller.

Dad's guilt isn't enough. Some mother and a whole family/community have lost a child.

It's time the ADULTS took responsibility for letting children play with deadly weapons. Weapons are not toys.


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