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josh
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posted 11 March 2003 12:24 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/03/11/stats_edearn030311
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dale cooper
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posted 11 March 2003 12:35 PM      Profile for dale cooper     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about the difference between an arts degree and a pre-professional degree?

Or having one of each?? Am I likely to make more money with an Arts degree and a pre-professional degree or less?

I got turned down for a job once for having both. The ass wouldn't stop laughing because I wasted my time on an Arts degree.


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lagatta
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posted 11 March 2003 12:37 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The exceptions (immigrants - not broken down by education, and young people up to age 29) are telling as well.

There are still huge barriers, not only "Canadian experience" but the corporatist demands of professional orders who insist on a Canadian university degree. A huge problem for health-care professionals here.

We won't even mention how little it pays to study Italian literature or history ...


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Mr. Magoo
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posted 11 March 2003 01:15 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interestingly, this was posted at cbc.ca on the same day as this:

Students Coping Poorly with High Debt Load

Funny thing is, they both describe me well. I graduated in '98, and while I make a decent salary, I've been paying $425/mo in combined student loans ever since (and will continue to for a while). One hand giveth, and the other hand taketh away... at least until my huge debt is clear.


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paxamillion
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posted 11 March 2003 01:18 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, everyone knows there is no future in history.
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abnormal
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posted 11 March 2003 07:00 PM      Profile for abnormal   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
More complete information re income can be found here and some specific info re income distributions can be found here.

[ 11 March 2003: Message edited by: abnormal ]


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Michelle
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posted 11 March 2003 09:02 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pax:

Also, the deep philosophical question is, "Would you like fries with that?"

Aww, I've got a million of 'em...


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DrConway
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posted 11 March 2003 11:09 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interest on student loans is also tax-deductible, which begs the question of why the government (which controls the loan program directly now) even bothers to charge interest on student loans.
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Timebandit
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posted 12 March 2003 01:07 AM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now that my student loans are paid off (they were very small -- I don't know if I was clever or just lucky), I am considering going back. I could have a terminal degree in 3 years. It wouldn't make me rich, but it would be interesting.
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Sine Ziegler
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posted 13 March 2003 12:58 AM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Aww c'mon Dr. Conway, you only get 16% of a non refundable tax credit on your student loan interest anyway. That does not translate into cancelling interest on student loans.

Don't get me wrong, I think post secondary public institutions should be free in Canada, and that private schools should be limited.

I don't see why there should not be interest on student loans. There is interest on everything else and the loaners deserve the equivalent treatment and FMV.


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DrConway
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posted 13 March 2003 02:18 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, as *I* see it the government should be issuing grants anyway, not loans.
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Aviator
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posted 15 March 2003 11:10 AM      Profile for Aviator     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If I could "do it over again", I would never have gotten a university degree. I would have learned trade and gotten my commercial pilot's license.
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steffie
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posted 26 March 2003 09:13 PM      Profile for steffie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As one on the brink of graduating with an Arts degree (English), I am concerned with the vast generalizations made, even on the CBC web site quoting percentages of Canadians with degrees and what they made. I do think any degree is better than none, but there's something to be said for the current job market (if it sucks it sucks for everyone) and one's own ability to sell oneself in said market.

For me, I had no choice but to further my education. There was no chance of getting past minimum wage without it. And even with a degree, I still work for a *cough* taxi company. Anybody out there hiring writers/editors? I can freelance... *sigh* Once my loan payments begin rolling in, I should be good and panicky.


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Gir Draxon
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posted 27 March 2003 12:31 AM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think this is accurate. Right now the trades are actually very big. Perhaps moreso here in Alberta than in other places, but the fact still remains that there is a LOT of money in the skilled trades. But for some odd reason, this is not reflected in the StatsCan report...
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R. J. Dunnill
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posted 26 April 2003 04:27 PM      Profile for R. J. Dunnill   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Right now the trades are actually very big. Perhaps moreso here in Alberta than in other places, but the fact still remains that there is a LOT of money in the skilled trades.
Yeah, that's what I'm hearing. When I'm finished my BTech in Computer Systems, if the IT job market (which is 100% dead right now) hasn't improved, I think I'm going to go in for a trade. One of my old instructors was quite miffed to hear that, for some reason.

Bizarre how the Canadian governnment and the ITAC continue to insist that there is a terrible shortage of IT personnel in Canada, which necessitates a fast-track work visa program (which the U.K. and German had but dropped due to the downturn). Meanwhile, job prospects for IT grads in Canada are so dismal that enrollment in such programs is plummetting.

RD


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Kindred
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posted 26 April 2003 04:55 PM      Profile for Kindred     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Steffie check this out
http://www.journalismjobs.com/

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audra trower williams
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posted 26 April 2003 08:58 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
or my favourite: http://www.jeffgaulin.com
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