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Hunky_Monkey
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posted 07 June 2007 05:03 PM      Profile for Hunky_Monkey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Green leader threatened resignation over internal dispute

Peter O'Neil
Vancouver Sun

Thursday, June 07, 2007

OTTAWA - Green Leader Elizabeth May, frustrated and "bone-weary" over her small salary, a sore hip, an exhausting schedule and internal bickering over the party's debt, warned senior party members last month that she might resign if they removed her from the party's budget committee, CanWest News has learned.

May, who made the warning in an e-mail to members of the party's 23-member ruling council, confirmed Thursday that she openly questioned her future as Green leader.

She said it was not a tactical manoeuvre.

"It wasn't a threat and it wasn't an ultimatum," May, a prominent environmentalist before winning the party's leadership last year, told the Vancouver Sun.

"I'm just being honest with people."

She said she is personally "broke" because of her $50,000 salary and called her job "grueling."

May's declaration was in response to a proposal from former interim executive-director David Scrymgeour, who was urging the party to slash spending and eliminate its debt.

Scrymgeour, who refused to comment when contacted, also said that May should step down from the party's budget review committee.

May responded that the spending cuts would kill the party's chances of winning seats in the next election


Canada.com


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KenS
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posted 07 June 2007 05:33 PM      Profile for KenS     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Interesting piece of gossip.

I have a more than passing familiarity with party financing and here's my comments for what they are worth.

At a bare minimum, if party expenses are greater than revenues before an election, that's a problem- magnified a lot if you don't expect to bring in a lot during the election- which the Greens could not reasonably expect.

It is prudent to plan taking on a fair bit of debt during the election campaign- especially with the quarterly public financing funds. But I'm counting on them doing a lot of that when I say they are not set up to have much in the pot for the election itself.

I can't remember how many weeks ago the story of this internal controversy is referring to [same time frame as the Chamberlain/Nazi comments and kefuffle], but weeks is a pretty short time to go from a monthly operating deficit to breaking even as is claimed to be the case now. I suppose it is conceivable if they did not replace or only partially replaced the strategist that quit.

The Leader being on the Budget Committee is pretty unusual- I would think even for a small party. But it would not be fair to leap to suspicions May is a mico-manager. Its true that the Greens decision making style makes it hard for anyone to stand back and be confident your views are being expressed and considered by others.

Puts that campaign headquarters [already] in Central Nova, which is presumably staffed on top of the other costs, in a different light.


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Several months ago, I was under the distinct impression that the Liberals and the Greens were going to help counteract the Canadian Neo-Con surge (led by Stephen Bush), by rebuilding and rejuvenating the center.

Now, I simply see May & Dion, as utterly inept, contradictory, soft, weak, pathetic, undefined panderers.

The center is collapsing under the weight of it's own impotence and incompetence, so now is the time to work hard together and pull hard on the paradigm rope, in order help *shift* North America to the political left.

If we dig in and give it 110%, we can help end the Neo-Conservative/Neo-Liberal monopoly. Avoid the internal bickering though folks, or we'll end up just like the Liberals and the Greens. The tent will implode and collapse.

Motivating spiritual & intellectual fuel ? : "HARPER'S NEO-CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY".

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The Greens have demonstrated a habit of electing leaders who have substantial Right-Wing belief tendencies. But since the Greens should be completely centristic, this has an implosive and self-destructive effect on their party.

First we had Jim Harris, with his free-marketisms and businessman-like presentations. Now May with her religiosity, stance on progressive taxation and general awkwardness.

Try to convince everyone you know, by using friendly tact, and facts, that the Greens and Liberals represent a wasted vote... due to lame leadership, lack of party unity, clarity, purpose and focus.


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Will S
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I like having the Greens, NDP and Liberals to choose from, and having a two-party system would take away that choice. If we had a two party system I'd have to spoil my ballot if the party of the left ever became tired, scandal-plagued, or underserving of my vote. I'd prefer to have some options for a protest vote or other parties that might be worth a try.

[ 07 June 2007: Message edited by: Will S ]


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Pepper-Pot
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posted 07 June 2007 08:27 PM      Profile for Pepper-Pot        Edit/Delete Post
I actually like the Finnish model, which has alot more than 4 parties. It's a PR pizza.

We're simply at a point in time, where the Liberals AND Greens are simultaneously, intellectually and politically bankrupt and turmoiled.

Not to mention impotent and incompetent !

But they are certainly operating FAR beneath their potential, mainly due to woefully inadequate leadership.


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KenS
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In the Sun interview May said that the Green debt is $255,000.

For what it's worth, the interest carrying cost of that would be around $2,000 per month.


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Jonas
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Elizabeth May is ALREADY bone-tired, broke, in chronic pain and complaining of a gruelling schedule? Er, I'm not sure just what she expected when she decided to run for the leadership of the Green's?

I've been through hip replacement and I simply can't IMAGINE having taken on a job like this while waiting for surgery.


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I like the way they keep calling her a "single mother" as part of the sob story. I suppose it's true that she is single and that she is somebody's mother. But to me when you call someone a "single mother" while referring to what a difficult life they currently have, I picture the parent of a young child who requires a lot of care and where there are lots of work/family demands. If I'm not mistaken, May's daughter is an adult.
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posted 08 June 2007 05:48 AM      Profile for The Wizard of Socialism   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
If financial gain was May's paramount concern, she should never have thrown in with the so-called greens. But if she can push their bankrupt agenda, she can push anything. I suggest she try being a lobbyist for the tobacco industry. She wouldn't be doing any more harm to the country than she's doing now, and at least it would be honest work.
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May lives in Ottawa, Ontario with her daughter, Victoria Cate May, born in 1991.

16, not quite an adult yet, but certainly not roaming around with baby carriages anymore.


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From the article:

quote:
Ms. May's declaration was in response to a proposal from former interim executive-director David Scrymgeour, who was urging the party to slash spending and eliminate its debt.

Mr. Scrymgeour, who refused to comment when contacted, also said that Ms. May should step down from the party's budget review committee.

Ms. May responded that the spending cuts would kill the party's chances of winning seats in the next election.

"I should also add that if council decided to remove me from the budget committee, I would have a hard time staying on as leader," Ms. May wrote in the e-mail.

Ms. May, a single mother who turns 53 on Saturday, said the proposal to remove her from the budget committee would further weaken her already-minimal powers granted in the Green party's consensus-oriented constitution.

"Do I have a lot of unilateral power? No I don't. Am I earning a ton of money? No I'm not. Am I tired and discouraged and bone-weary and in chronic pain because I'm waiting for a hip replacement? Do I have down moments? You bet.

"If you catch me in a down moment and slap me in the face, do I really want to stay? I don't know. I mean, I'm human."


I suspect that this will do nothing to quell the internal fires of dissent that continue to roil under the surface (deeper under the surface while poll numbers are up, but closer to the surface when they go down) within the Green Party, especially with the Chernushenko wing.

From what I understand, there continues to be a sizable group of long-term active Greens that question May's loyalty, given that she had never been a member prior to running for the leadership, that in the last campaign she encouraged some Greens to vote or align with the Liberals, and her recent deal in Central Nova.

Whining about a $50,000 salary (presumably more than or same as Jim Harris got) and not being on the budget committee and threatening to walk won't help. Besides, people can rightly guess where she would be thinking to walk to - the Liberal Party of Canada.


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posted 08 June 2007 01:51 PM      Profile for Oppo-Guy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by NDPundit:

Whining about a $50,000 salary . . .


Unbelievable, especially when you consider that the average woman made just over $24,000 last year. You wouldn't know it from her, but there are a lot of people worse off than Elizabeth May.

Greens should take note: this is the depth of your leader's convictions -- she's prepared to quit over being excluded from an internal committee. She's convinced you need her more than she needs you.

It's fitting that May has aligned herself with the Liberals . . . the arrogance is uncanny.

[ 08 June 2007: Message edited by: Oppo-Guy ]


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"I'm very committed to issues. I'm committed to the country. I'm committed to the planet. I would have a hard time imagining leaving my position either."

Adding to Oppo-Guy: I don't seen anything here about her commitment to the party. Except that she might have a hard time leaving a measly $50,000 a year.

More from the All-About-Me land of Elizabeth May:

quote:
And you can give up to $1,100 each to both the federal party and a local riding association (perhaps Central Nova?).

Elizabeth’s Hope Chest


[ 08 June 2007: Message edited by: writer ]


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Originally posted by NDPundit:
...Whining about a $50,000 salary and not being on the budget committee and threatening to walk won't help. Besides, people can rightly guess where she would be thinking to walk to - the Liberal Party of Canada.

Yes, she sure is struggling with 50k per year income. Wouldn't a good majority of single mothers love to be making that amount? Feminist my ass!

Her ego would not let her walk to the Liberal Party, there she would just be another MP, or candidate, amongst many. Leader of would be the only way unless the Liberals got in them she could trade into being Minister of the Environment.

Moreover, what the hell anyway, the Greens spend a fortune on her running in London Centre North, and she blows it off, where the assets gained could have be an asset, to run in Central Nova.

The Green Party should've called her bluff!


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In complaining about her undersized pay, she was fighting to keep herself in the - wait for it - budget committee? If I am more cynical, the image would be a financially stressed person insisting to have her hand in the till...

To be fair, she must have gotten more pay at Sierra Club. Now I know why Jim Harris continued with his "inspirational speaker" gig when he was the leader.


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adma
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This is the first time I heard about David Scrymgeour's relationship w/the Greens; I was wondering where I heard that name before, and...Markham federal PC candidate, 2000.

Nice way to vindicate oneself as a Babble target...


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Malcolm
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posted 08 June 2007 08:54 PM      Profile for Malcolm   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Why is Liberal Lizzie even saying these things to the media? Really. Just how stupid is this woman?

Even if the substance of the whole thing is accurate, even if the media approach her to ask, the obvious answer was something like "Most organizations will have internal disagreements about priorities, particularly spending priorities. I'm glad I lead a party where these kinds of decisions get made after an open, full and frank discussion."

By making the comments she did, she damages both herself and her party.

This woman isn't competent to run for Grade 4 Class President.

[ 08 June 2007: Message edited by: Malcolm French, APR ]


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We can only hope...
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Originally posted by Malcolm French, APR:
Why is Liberal Lizzie even saying these things to the media? Really. Just how stupid is this woman?

Even if the substance of the whole thing is accurate, even if the media approach her to ask, the obvious answer was something like "Most organizations will have internal disagreements about priorities, particularly spending priorities. I'm glad I lead a party where these kinds of decisions get made after an open, full and frank discussion."

By making the comments she did, she damages both herself and her party.

This woman isn't competent to run for Grade 4 Class President.


She wasn't saying it to the media. She wrote this in a private email which was leaked to the media by somebody within the party.


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As the father of a grade 4 student I resent that remark. I would trust her to run the government over EM any day of the week. I would trust my grade 1 daughter more too.
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Originally posted by West Coast Greeny:

She wasn't saying it to the media. She wrote this in a private email which was leaked to the media by somebody within the party.


Oh that makes all the difference, because we all know anything we put in writing never gets made public. And if this was made public by a Green insider that means the knives are out and an ugly split is potentially developing.


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Originally posted by Life, the universe, everything:

Oh that makes all the difference, because we all know anything we put in writing never gets made public. And if this was made public by a Green insider that means the knives are out and an ugly split is potentially developing.


1) There's been a factional feud within the party for a while. It runs back to the days of Harris.

2) I'm sorry, there is quite a large difference between expressing your frustrations in public, and doing so in private.

[ 08 June 2007: Message edited by: West Coast Greeny ]


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Here's Backroom Lizzie's clarification on Saturday G&M: "I wasn't threatening to quit". Furthermore, she felt betrayed that her email got leaked. "It means we can't have a governing council conversation on e-mail".

If May can just do things correctly the first time, she can save a lot of time and energy skipping the subsequent clarifications and denials.


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Originally posted by Life, the universe, everything:And if this was made public by a Green insider that means the knives are out and an ugly split is potentially developing.

The leaders email being leaked means that the split is more than potentially developing.

Hopefully, they will actually get themselves a progressive leader. As a feminist, and a person on the left, I would like to have another party to choose from, especially if the patriarchial BS from the 60's and 70's is raising its ugly head again within the ranks of the NDP.

Which is part of the reason why May's, and the subsequent Green Party poster's here, anti-feminist non-progressive ideology has infuruated me. They have shown themselves to be of the CPC ilk.


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I have no commitment to party politics and sometimes despair that any politicians take governance seriously. I had hoped Elizabeth May might be a person who would place the people above the party.

I see nothing in the discussion here or her words to make me think that isn't still possible.

What our party systems does currently is ensure that the wishes of only some of the people are attended to at any given time.

This is a very inefficient model compared to all energies being directed to current needs of the people and sustaining the future.

Perhaps proportionate representation will help ...


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May was/is just an economic Neo-Liberal with a desire to inject religiosity into gov't social policy.

First Jim Harris, then her.

When are the Greens going to emulate the superior model of Green Party policy, found in Europe and Nordic-Scandinavia ? Never, if North Americans insist on not building bridges towards emulating leftist and centristic models found across the sea. They have more experience, history and success over there. Why cut oneself off from that ?

If the Greens don't find the Center, or the Center-Left realm, they will continually implode and self-destruct. The Greens should be a neutral-transcendent party, with the health of the environment as it's overwhelming & predominant objective. They should put the Neo-Liberal economics and Falwellian religiosity in the trash can along with the Martinian, Harperian and Bushian models.


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quote:
Originally posted by West Coast Greeny:

2) I'm sorry, there is quite a large difference between expressing your frustrations in public, and doing so in private.


There's a saying that goes something along the lines of: don't write anything in an e-mail you wouldn't want to defend later on. This usually applies to work e-mail, but I think the same should be said in this case.


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The first stupid thing Liberal Lizzie did was to send the email. If you want to be taken seriously, you shouldn't make stupid comments in emails - especially emails being sent to people who have expressly said they want to remove you from a committee.

The second stupid thing Liberal Lizzie did was to respond in detail to the press about the email. The best way to kill a negative story is to let it die, not to give it legs. Had she responded along the lines I noted above, it would have reduced the oxygen. Instead, she fanned the flame.

The third stupid thing Liberal Lizzie did was to keep responding. She was on CBC's The House this morning keeping the story alive.

And LU&E, sorry if I seemed to insult your doubtless competent children. Of course, you Grade 4 child is doubtless competent to BE Class President - an office which Liberal Lizzie is not competent to SEEK. See, I was saying that you child was WAY smarter than Liberal Lizzie. Which admittedly doesn't set the bar too high, but I'm sure your kids are bright as all get out.


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I would have thought that Ellie May would have been HAPPY to have a low salary. I mean according to her, the problem with all the other parties is that they believe in "economic growth" (horror of horrors). I think that May ought should be delighted that by having a salary of $50,000 - her environmental footprint will be reduced. After all, what would she spend any extra money on but on consumer products whose production would lead to the creation of more greenhouse gases or more food in which case her digestive system would just fart out more climate changing methane.

If May really opposes economic growth and thinks that we all need to reduce our environmental footprint - why doesn't she set an example by living on $20,000 a year and she can also campaign in the next election by walking from riding to riding - no trains, no planes, no cars, no buses...


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Time for an Elizabeth (it’s all about ME) May fact check.

According to CanWest last Friday May was “broke”, but by the Saturday Globe and Mail she’s “perfectly fine”. However, after paying off the debts of a couple of Green party members she got herself “into a bit of a hole, but I am managing this fine” (Globe & Mail).

Hopefully, “managing this fine” does not involve trying to get the Green party to reimburse her?

And come to think of it exactly why is the leader of a political party paying off the debts of party members, what were the debts for and were they processed appropriately?

CanWest suggests that May implied that her $50,000 Green Party salary was “small”. However, according to public records, this is not May’s only source of income. Not including the possibility of child support, May rents rooms out of her Ottawa home (read rental income), she’s co-authoring Climate change for Dummies (presumably not just for her health), and she’s still on the roster of Professional Speakers’ Bureau Inc. (http://www.prospeakers.com/speakers/default.asp?load=may).

And by the way the median income for a single parent family living in Ottawa in 2005 was $36,100, according to the good folks at Stats Can. And she certainly had enough disposable income to donate $575 to the party in the first quarter.

May is doing her “little bit in a couple little committees that are advisory only” according to the Globe. This would be one of the same “little committees” that she threatened to resign over. Let’s see – CanWest quotes her frustration over her “exhausting schedule”, but she balks at not participating on a “little advisory committee”.

And rumour has it that the party, despite May’s protestations against cost cuts to balance the budget, has laid-off a handful of staff, cut salaries and hours. May’s salary of course was not touched.

[ 10 June 2007: Message edited by: Politics 101 ]

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I've been sitting here pondering for a few minutes what to say about this 'inquiring' into May's and Green Party affairs.

I think I'll just leave it at saying this makes me uncomfortable- that in my mind it is a fair bit beyond what is acceptable for a public discussion forum.

It's the moderators job to make these determinations. But I have no idea where the line is drawn, so I'm speaking from some kind of common sense/decency perspective.

If one is going to do this kind of digging it seems to me you do it on your own or with friends.


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I think there is a difference between on the one hand posting conclusions with facts to back them up; and on the other hand, posting a bunch of facts and suggesting where they may lead.
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Ken S

I'm a little uncertain as to what is making you feel uncomfortable, however, in terms of income sources this is all referenced on the net, including the Green party blogs.

Below is one of the motions that was recently moved:

"Whereas the actions, both positive and negative, of any individual using the Green Party name reflect on the the Party as a whole,

Whereas XXXXXXX XXXX, who ran in the Nov/2006 municipal election in Toronto under the Green Party banner, rented a Legion Hall and failed to
pay the bill for $960.

And whereas the Legion subsequently approached E May as leader of the Green Party to make good on the bill - which she paid personally in the
expectation that M. XXXX would reimburse her - which he has not.

Therefore be it resolved that the Leader be reimbursed for this payment

And further that XXXXXXX XXXX be sent a letter to the effect that the Leader and now the Party has paid this bill on his behalf, that he is
now indebted to the Party for $960, and is requested to clear the debt as soon as possible."


Name of candidate deleted by Politics 101.


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KenS - I've been sifting through a couple of the recent threads on May and the Greens and I appreciate your concern for balance and fairness. That being said I think this one is no different really than other threads. Posters are commenting on legitimate media stories and statements by Ms. May herself. I don't really see anything different here than in other threads referring to other politicians and parties including the NDP. If the Green leadership doesn't want to have this speculation then they should handle things internally with more care. No one has challenged the authenticity of the story nor proved that any of this is false. Therefor it is legitimate discussion.

I myself have difficulty with the statement that Ms. May is broke because of her salary. I don't know what she earned at the Sierra Club and don't care. $50,000.00 is not impossible and many people make financial sacrifices to either enter or compete for a political career. I have personally met and worked with many people who have walked away from wealthy, successful positions to re-orient their lives for the greater good.

I still don't understand why she needs to be on the committee if the committee feels strongly that she shouldn't be there.

As for whether emails are private or not in politics, well anyone with any kind of political instincts knows that emails get leaked. So if you don't want an issue to get out there then discuss it in private. She could have dealt with this in private conversation. If they know who leaked the email then the leadership can deal appropriately with that person. That's their job.

Ms. May brings this on herself and the leadership is allowing it. They have to accept the results.


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And how long is she going to run with the "Gosh golly, I didn't know!" routine as part of her strategy as leader of a new and different kind of party?

It was getting old when her pranti-choice slams against women who support abortion oozed out into the public last fall.

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Elizabeth May said yesterday she is "embarrassed" - and a little less naive - after the public disclosure of an e-mail to the Green Party's governing council in which she said she would have a difficult time staying on as leader if she were removed from the party's budget review committee.

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