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Jooge
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posted 31 March 2006 12:12 PM      Profile for Jooge     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Shapiro again shows that he is an out and out partisan idiot

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Ethics Commissioner Bernard Shapiro has rejected a request to investigate Belinda Stronach's switch from the Conservatives to the Liberals last year.

Mr. Shapiro said in a two-page letter to NDP MP Pat Martin, who filed the complaint, that former prime minister Paul Martin did not violate the conflict-of-interest code for MPs when the Conservative MP joined the Liberal cabinet days before a key vote last spring that might have defeated the government.

The commissioner said the then-prime-minister was acting as a member of the government's executive branch, not as an MP, and so the MPs' code does not apply.

Mr. Shapiro repeated his view that the increased salary that comes with a cabinet job cannot alone be considered an "improper inducement" as outlined in the rules.

But the NDP's Mr. Martin said the ruling is at odds with Mr. Shapiro's recent report clearing Prime Minister Stephen Harper for offering a cabinet job to then-Liberal David Emerson. That report speculated that if a prime minister offered a cabinet job with the sole intent of acquiring that member's vote, such conduct would be "inappropriate and unacceptable."


What a buffoon. Yet again he shows he is totally unfit for the position.


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Polunatic2
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posted 31 March 2006 12:15 PM      Profile for Polunatic2   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Stronach was re-elected and the Martin government was defeated. The voter's have spoken. The complaint would not have been so frivolous had it been made when the defection occurred.
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posted 31 March 2006 12:18 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Jooge:
Shapiro again shows that he is an out and out partisan idiot

What a buffoon. Yet again he shows he is totally unfit for the position.


Given his ruling on Emerson, would he be a "partisan" Liberal idiot or a "partisan" Conservative idiot? Having read his Emerson decision, can you identify where he misinterpreted the law? And how about the "idiots" who didn't see any violation when Stronach defected, but only complained 10 months later?

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Jooge
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posted 31 March 2006 12:51 PM      Profile for Jooge     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by unionist:

Given his ruling on Emerson, would he be a "partisan" Liberal idiot or a "partisan" Conservative idiot? Having read his Emerson decision, can you identify where he misinterpreted the law? And how about the "idiots" who didn't see any violation when Stronach defected, but only complained 10 months later?

[ 31 March 2006: Message edited by: unionist ]


Hopefully we can agrtee that he is an idiot, pure and simple.

When it comes down to it ethics really plays no part in politics. I did not agree with Stronachs defection and I did not agree with Emerson's either.

The ruling on Emerson was correct, however, because the mandate of the (incorrectly named) Ethics commissioner does not cover ethics in teh way that teh general public interprets them. The hypocrisy here is that Shapiro had the opportunity to include the Stronach defection in teh Emerson investigation. If he had he could have exonerated them all together and not come out looking like he doesn't want to investigate Liberals.

The whole fiasco clearly illustrates that Shapiro is not up to the job.


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Jooge
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posted 31 March 2006 12:53 PM      Profile for Jooge     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Polunatic2:
Stronach was re-elected and the Martin government was defeated. The voter's have spoken. The complaint would not have been so frivolous had it been made when the defection occurred.

This argument would have more weight if a majority of her now constituents had voted for her but they didn't.


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Polunatic2
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posted 01 April 2006 12:29 PM      Profile for Polunatic2   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
You mean a majority as in "50% +1"?
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Jooge
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posted 02 April 2006 11:07 PM      Profile for Jooge     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Polunatic2:
You mean a majority as in "50% +1"?

Thats a majority in my book.


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