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rasmus
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posted 29 March 2006 07:35 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
To continue from the old thread, which is too long.
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Albireo
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posted 29 March 2006 09:37 PM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Continued from here.
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tommie
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posted 30 March 2006 12:34 AM      Profile for tommie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
While we are talking about leadership, I'll give a quick plug to Gerard Kennedy. I met him over the weekend at a reception in downtown Vancouver. I asked him three questions (NAFTA, tuition fees and Quebec.) I was pleased to hear that he believes in moving away from a dominated trading system with the US and building trading relations with emerging markets like China and India. Even more inspiring, he said he supported working towards eliminating tuition fees. Kennedy talked a lot about rebuilding the Liberal party and making Canada an "international country." He's picking up support, and I think he has the vision to save this country.

...and the idealism to make sure all NDP voters come home to the LPC.


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farnival
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posted 30 March 2006 01:32 AM      Profile for farnival     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by tommie:

...and the idealism to make sure all NDP voters come home to the LPC.

uh, i believe something about oil and water was mentioned earlier...i would personally eat my shorts and yours for that matter before i would ever even consider voting for a party that gutted UI, essentially privatised our CPP, allowed creeping two-tier health care, prefers corporate tax cuts over social spending, would have gone to war in iraq if polling had suggested it might be a good idea, or would do anything if polling suggested it might be a good idea for that matter, and in relation to the title of this thread, wouldn't even pop by for tea at a home that hosted such anti-labour champions as stronach, martin, and now apparently, hargrove!


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Kenehan
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posted 30 March 2006 09:56 AM      Profile for Kenehan     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
On Kennedy, I tend to agree with my man Marchese: Kennedy should not be moonlighting.

On the matter at hand... Peter Leibovicth has a great piece in Straight Goods:

quote:
I am sure satirists can have a field day with this (and it is tempting), but I will forebear, because this is not a debate about Buzz or Bob. This is a debate about whether labour needs a political party that represents its interests.

This is a debate about whether labour needs a political party that represents its interests.

Buzz, and his apologist Jim Stanford, start every argument declaring their adherence to socialism. But then they go on to talk about how labour needs a new strategy. If they want to speak in class terms, then let's go to it. Their strategy is class collaboration, or what was referred to by old socialists as "Gomperism", (after Samuel Gompers, president of the American Federation of Labor 1886-1924).


[ 30 March 2006: Message edited by: Kenehan ]


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Albireo
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posted 30 March 2006 11:15 AM      Profile for Albireo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by tommie:
Even more inspiring, he said he supported working towards eliminating tuition fees.
His government seems to be working in the other direction.

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Kenehan
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posted 30 March 2006 11:30 AM      Profile for Kenehan     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
But tke key thing for a Liberal Leader is promising to do stuff.

Not actually doing it.

Kennedy and Rae are both great at that.


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tommie
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posted 30 March 2006 02:12 PM      Profile for tommie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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On Kennedy, I tend to agree with my man Marchese: Kennedy should not be moonlighting.

Give me a break. If the worst thing about the direction the OLP has taken education in Ontario is the career options of the Minister responsible, then I think it is evidence of the incredible job Kennedy as done for education in Ontario.


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 30 March 2006 02:20 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Glad to see you've dropped the facade of being an NDPer. No one was buying it anyway.

And, no, Kennedy's career ambitions are hardly "the worst thing" about the Liberals' performance on education. But it doesn't help when the guy in charge suddenly decides that his job is only part-time.


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Reality. Bites.
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posted 30 March 2006 03:28 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
Glad to see you've dropped the facade of being an NDPer. No one was buying it anyway.

Hasn't he "left" the NDP as many times as Cher's had farewell concerts?


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Erstwhile
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posted 30 March 2006 03:56 PM      Profile for Erstwhile     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The correct term is "flounced", RB.
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Hephaestion
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posted 30 March 2006 04:00 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
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Hasn't he "left" the NDP as many times as Cher's had farewell concerts?


That would be "Critical Mass" you're thinking of.

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Erstwhile
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posted 30 March 2006 04:09 PM      Profile for Erstwhile     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post

"Every time I try to leave...they keep pulling me back in!"


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Reality. Bites.
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posted 30 March 2006 04:20 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post
NDP... I wish I could quit you.


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Erstwhile
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posted 30 March 2006 04:45 PM      Profile for Erstwhile     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post

"tommie...come back, tommie!"


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