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4t2
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posted 24 November 2003 01:21 PM      Profile for 4t2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
OK, so I don't place huge faith in the accuracy of American-based websites dedicated to "furthering the conservative cause", especially when the article in question is written by an author who also writes doggerel for the Poets for the War website.

But I still find this interesting...source here.

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This past spring, Carolyn Parrish, a Liberal Member of Parliament from Mississauga (west of Toronto) blurted out into an open microphone, “Damn Americans! I hate those bastards.” Instead of being vilified for the remark, Parrish became a folk heroine in Canada and appeared on the Mike Bullard Show (the Canadian equivalent of David Letterman).

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President Bush gave a cordial welcome to Martin over the weekend. How cordial that relationship will be with Martin will depend on what Martin does with Carolyn Parrish, as she has been a long time supporter of Martin. Her constituency has a large concentration of Muslim Arabs who have become influential within the Liberal Party (as well as the socialist New Democratic Party). Some have speculated that Martin will appoint Parrish to Cabinet. If he does so his efforts to improve relations between Canada and the United States will get off on the wrong foot. However, if he should not elevate Parrish or even go a step further and remove Bill Graham from his post as Minister of Foreign Affairs it would be a represent a positive signal to Washington. Indeed, Graham was the architect of the Chretien’s Iraq policy and also resisted efforts to classify Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist organizations



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Gir Draxon
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posted 24 November 2003 01:26 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I don't think Martin is THAT stupid.
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Hinterland
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posted 24 November 2003 01:36 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post
Oh, for God's sakes....not the Carolyn Parrish ordeal again. Only idiots like Aaron Goldstein (...and other shrill half-wits who characterise all oppositon to the Bush neo-cons as anti-Americanism) keep bringing up this non-event as if it ever had any real meaning. So far, I've heard of no discussion about Carolyn Parrish being appointed to the cabinet, and as far as "what to do with her" that's mostly up to her constituents. It is the height of moronic disingenuousness to equate her hissy-fit (...she never actually made a public announcement about hating American bastards; it got picked up in the height of a scrum and I remember her laughing at her own naughtiness) as a symptom of legitimate disagreement with the ill-advised and arrogant military adventure of the Iraq invasion. I'm not apologising for Parrish; she should have known better. But to keep bringing this up over and over again just makes me want to...well, call a number of people bastards, actually.
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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 24 November 2003 01:40 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
have there been any rumours on who martin would want at external affairs?
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Adam Smith
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posted 24 November 2003 03:51 PM      Profile for Adam Smith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I think Bill Graham has a high likelyhood of staying in the position. If anything he has shown that he can follow the line from the PMO and that was why he was appointed in the first place and what Martin will want from Foreign Affairs. I don't think he really had any blunders or anything that would have people screaming for his head.

[ 24 November 2003: Message edited by: Adam Smith ]


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Shane
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posted 24 November 2003 04:24 PM      Profile for Shane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
If Martin were smart he'd refuse to sign her nomination papers.

The last thing we need is more of Carolyn Parrish. I'm sure her constituents will sing her a song this election...

"Na na na na, Na na na na, Hey hey, GOOD BYE!"


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meades
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posted 24 November 2003 04:25 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Sampson, Arar, Kazemi . . .

That said, I like Carolyn Parrish. The non-event only came into the spotlight because of hyper-sensitive Bush apologists.

It's not the Parrish's of the world that need to apologize: It's the mass murderers, like Bush, and Blair that need to.

[ 24 November 2003: Message edited by: meades ]


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Mr. Magoo
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posted 24 November 2003 04:35 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
The non-event only came into the spotlight because of hyper-sensitive Bush apologists.

... and Canadians who haven't the animus to hate 300 million Americans all at once.


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'lance
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posted 24 November 2003 04:35 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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If Martin were smart he'd refuse to sign her nomination papers.
The last thing we need is more of Carolyn Parrish. I'm sure her constituents will sing her a song this election...

Surely, Shane, it's in the interest of Reform Party supporters that she not only run for office again, but have a shot at a Cabinet post? That way, Reformers have yet another talking point they can use against Martin. God knows, they're going to need them.

I don't know who "we" is, here. There's no "we" that includes me and Reformers, for example (unless maybe it's "we residents of Calgary"). But I think you do need more of Carolyn Parrish.

[ 24 November 2003: Message edited by: 'lance ]


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Gir Draxon
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posted 27 November 2003 06:07 AM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:

But I think you do need more of Carolyn Parrish.

[ 24 November 2003: Message edited by: 'lance ]


Something tells me Shane is not in the modd for a healthy dose of anti-Americanism right now.

quote:
That said, I like Carolyn Parrish. The non-event only came into the spotlight because of hyper-sensitive Bush apologists.

It's not the Parrish's of the world that need to apologize: It's the mass murderers, like Bush, and Blair that need to.


Oh, please! If it was a right-winger saying something about "Iraqi bastards", would it be a non-issue brought to light only by the hyper-sensitive Saddam apologists?

It's only a "non-issue" because you happen to agree with her in this case. Imagine for a second that you didn't hate the USA, would it still be a non-issue?


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Shane
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posted 29 November 2003 11:10 AM      Profile for Shane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I believe we can be good friends with the United States, while remaining an independent nation.

Unlike some Babblers, I don't believe the USA has some secret plan of trying to conquer Canada. There is no reason we should fear our neighbours.

Canada is geographically positioned perfectly to become the most successfull nation in the world; socially and economically.

We have a free trade agreement with the most powerful economy in the world, yet we are a sovereign nation.

So yes, it disturbs me when an elected Member of the government says something completely inappropriate, and counter-productive such as calling Americans "Bastards." I can't fathom for the life of me what kind of idiot would say this about ANY nationality.

What disturbs me is that she was not even reprimanded by the Prime minister.


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Shane
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posted 29 November 2003 11:13 AM      Profile for Shane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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I don't know who "we" is, here. There's no "we" that includes me and Reformers, for example (unless maybe it's "we residents of Calgary"). But I think you do need more of Carolyn Parrish.

We being Canadians.

[ 29 November 2003: Message edited by: Shane ]


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