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NineSpiral
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posted 09 November 2001 07:52 PM      Profile for NineSpiral   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
anyone around here who supports Marcel Hatch in the leadership race against Alexa? I haven't heard his name mentioned too much around here...Marcel is part of the socialist slate of candidates put forward by the NDP Socialist Caucus...I have heard *zero* mention of his name in the mainstream, even though he's the only person running against Alexa (to my knowledge)

for more info on him go to http://www.ndpsocialists.ca


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Marc
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posted 09 November 2001 09:42 PM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I think that it might be a ploy to get Svend to run in the leadership race. If Svend were the first to join it would have looked REALLY bad. If it were between Alexa and Hatch 95% of the delegates would support Alexa.
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meades
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posted 09 November 2001 10:42 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Nine Spiral! You beat me to the punch! I was just looking at the SC website, not two minutes ago- saw the Marcel Hatch campaign, and thought "gee, this would make a great topic for babble". But, noooooooooooOOOOOOOOOooooooooo!

Are there any NDP MP's in the Socialist Caucus?

Are there any other groups within the NDP like this? Not necesarily Socialist, but do they have other organizations like the SC?

...and what ever happened to Herschel Hardin? Was he in the SC?


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meades
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posted 09 November 2001 10:47 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I just found this:

Howard Hampton demonstrates his ability to cross the age gap, and his understanding nature towards the concerns of today's youth

I'm sorry, I have nothing against Howard Hampton. From what I hear he's a great guy- but that photo is funny!

[ November 11, 2001: Message edited by: meades ]


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DrConway
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posted 09 November 2001 10:49 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post

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rasmus
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posted 09 November 2001 10:57 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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I think that it might be a ploy to get Svend to run in the leadership race.

What's with the conspiratorial paranoia about Svend? I haven't seen the slightest sign that he intends to run.

Poor old Howard... he means well, I'm sure.


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Marc
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posted 10 November 2001 03:37 AM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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What's with the conspiratorial paranoia about Svend? I haven't seen the slightest sign that he intends to run.

Its not about Svend...I very well doubt that he has anything to do with this. I am trying to rationalize why it could happen. I was thinking that the only way to have a leadership review (race) is for the leader to resign (which is not going to happen) or for a challenger to come out. The Socialist Caucus, I believe, want more than anything for Svend to become leader...so I think that they put out a sacrificial candidate in order to start up a leadership race, in hopes of drawing out Mr. Robinson. I personally think that Svend does not support this idea but I also think that if he sees a leadership race he would definitely think of joining it.

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vaudree
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posted 10 November 2001 01:17 PM      Profile for vaudree     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Svend seems to have a Rhinocerous approach to leadership races.
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Sine Ziegler
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posted 10 November 2001 01:26 PM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The Marccel Hatch campaign claims that people are so unhappy about Alexa that even moderates and many others outside the socialist caucus will cast a ballot for Marcel. Yeah right.

Marcel Hatch flyers were going around both BC and AB conventions last weekend. Nobody noticed them or cared. Alexa is strong.

Hahaha thanks for the funny Howard Hampton pic. It made my day!


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Doug
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posted 10 November 2001 07:41 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The Howard photo is funny...kind of looks like he's just said, "EH, sonny? What was that? Let me turn up my hearing aid..."
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meades
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posted 11 November 2001 04:28 AM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I found that photo on THEIR website! Why on earth would they put that photo on THEIR WEBSITE! Is the webmaster out to oust Howard or something?
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rasmus
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posted 11 November 2001 03:12 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I misplaced this comment earlier --

I highly doubt the Socialist Caucus wants Svend as leader, really I do. I haven't asked them but that's my sense.


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rasmus
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posted 11 November 2001 03:12 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Of course, given a race between Svend, Lorne, and Alexa, they would support Svend...
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Judes
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posted 11 November 2001 03:49 PM      Profile for Judes   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
In the NDP anyone can run against the leader anytime. Most people in the party agreed that now is not the time for a leadership contest which is why Svend is not running. The Socialist Caucus doesn't agree so they decided to run Marcel Hatch.

As to other groups in the NDP. There is NDProgres which is organizing for one member one vote and there is NPI which is pushing for the NDP to initiate the formation of a new party. There is also a labour caucus that usually organizes.


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meades
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posted 11 November 2001 07:22 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Do you think anyone else will join the race now that it's pretty much inevitable now?
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NP
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posted 11 November 2001 08:46 PM      Profile for NP   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post

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meades
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posted 11 November 2001 08:51 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
That's okay. I didn't think Libby would make a run for it anyway If she does, however, I've got slogans, signs and banners that will certainly help
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Michelle
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posted 11 November 2001 09:01 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I don't think Libby Davies has a high profile either. I'd never heard of her until meades started mentioning her on babble. Then again, I guess that's how people get known, right?

As a person who is not an actual member of the NDP but a sometime supporter (just through voting, not financially), I would vote for Svend Robinson as the leader of the party, in a federal election. I know, you're supposed to vote for your candidate, but if Robinson were leader, that could only be a positive influence on my vote.

Libby Davies seems like a neat person as well, though, and there's nothing saying that people can't become well-known to the general public after they become leader. I'd never heard of McDonough or McLaughlin before they became leader. And I think they were pretty good.


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meades
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posted 12 November 2001 01:07 AM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
That's the spirit! Okay, now everybody say it with me- Libby. Davies. For. Leader. In 2001.

That's good, now again...


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MJ
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posted 12 November 2001 11:38 PM      Profile for MJ     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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I also think Svend running will hinge on whether OMOV passes at convention. If it does, Svend would get hammered in a leadership vote by party members. He simply can't connect with the average party member.

I don't know if this is completely accurate. After all, in the one member one vote (non-binding) balloting the NDP held in 1995, Svend did quite well. I don't, and wouldn't, support him for Leader, but he came first or second in every region of the country. He came first in the two most populous provinces, BC and Ontario, and while they don't have the highest numbers of NDP membership, they do have the highest potential for member recruiting in any OMOV campaign.


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NP
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posted 12 November 2001 11:50 PM      Profile for NP   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post

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