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Marc
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posted 05 November 2001 02:37 AM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Today I was lucky enough to get to have lunch with Alexa McDonough...I was so impressed with her. She was so down to earth and so...GREAT! I support her as leader 200% and I will until the second that she resigns. After that...IT'S ALL ABOUT LORNE!
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meades
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posted 05 November 2001 02:48 AM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
WOW! Talk about a 180!

I like Alexa too, especially her openness to change in the party. If and when she steps down, though, It's LIBBY FOR LEADER!

LIBBY FOR LEADER!!! LIBBY FOR LEADER!!!

[ November 05, 2001: Message edited by: meades ]


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posted 05 November 2001 04:21 AM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Well, i hope Alexa knows that she's loved. It can't have been a fun last few years. And if Libby has any sense, she's packing for the hills right now. WingNut knows a great place to shop for gear.

[ November 05, 2001: Message edited by: nonesuch ]


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vaudree
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posted 05 November 2001 05:11 PM      Profile for vaudree     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
That jacket she wore today - it was not quite a bright red and not quite a burgandy - but it is her color and it brought her out. I liked what she said about broken bodies and how they influenced the hearts and the minds. It`s more poetic that she has been for a while and I think her true self is showing again.

As of late Alexa has been too guarded like she was afraid she would slip up and say the wrong thing. It took away from her conviction and enthusiasm. The habbit that Alexa does not do too well at is immitating her oponents - third person portrayals work better for her. I still remember her comparing Stockwell Day to a cockroach - and I wish that someone with a good sense of humour and drawing abilities would do a "Doris the Cockroach" spoof.


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bellows
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posted 05 November 2001 08:42 PM      Profile for bellows     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I love politician's too, especally when they may be able to do something for me. But always remember a politician is a politician and are in there for themselves and if you can help them they will help you and I don't mean voting for them.
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wagepeace
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posted 07 November 2001 12:10 PM      Profile for wagepeace     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
The question is:

Would you like another 4 years of Alexa?

A tough one. Maybe she can get her old job back in Nova Scotia - Darrel Dexter is only a temp.


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JonnyHaggis
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posted 07 November 2001 12:25 PM      Profile for JonnyHaggis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
You guys almost had me convince. Sorry, y'all Alexa is a sack of turds. She's the one who proudly got up in parliament to denounce Sunera Thobani's mediocre speech that everyone went ballistic over without having comprehended a single sentance of. And her helmet hair is absurd.
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Marc
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posted 07 November 2001 12:31 PM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
why is it that a only a woman politician would get criticised for her hair? I find that rather offensive. I personally think that Alexa has every right to stay as leader until she feels like stepping down. The NDP right now is not an easy party to lead...remember folks in 1997 she got us from 9 seats to 21. Give her a chance.

P.S - She beats the living heck out of Audrey McL!


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 07 November 2001 12:32 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
Personally, I don't like her tendency to resort to misandrist humour when she gives speeches to women's groups.

[ November 07, 2001: Message edited by: Kneel before MediaBoy ]


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MJ
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posted 07 November 2001 12:42 PM      Profile for MJ     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Charming turn of phrase, JH, a really incisive bit of political commentary.
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JonnyHaggis
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posted 07 November 2001 12:46 PM      Profile for JonnyHaggis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
why is it that a only a woman politician would get criticised for her hair?

Because all the men have toupees and not real hair!

Just for the record, I always make fun of politicians' hair regardless of gender, because politicians' hair is always absurd. See the just ousted mayor Pierre Bourque of Montreal, not to Mention Jean Chretien, Paul Martin and the ever Devo-esque Preston Manning.


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Trinitty
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posted 07 November 2001 12:55 PM      Profile for Trinitty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Hey, put your knives away....

Actually, Alexa made fun of Pierre Pettigrew's hair in the House yesterday, DURING question period.... on her LEAD question!

It was pretty damn funny, but kinda mean, Pierre is a sensitive soul.


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 07 November 2001 01:07 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
I found that kinda disappointing. I'd hope the leader of the NDP would stick to the issues and not resort to the silly name-calling that the Liberals enjoy.
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JCL
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posted 07 November 2001 06:49 PM      Profile for JCL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
The NDP right now is not an easy party to lead...remember folks in 1997 she got us from 9 seats to 21. Give her a chance.

Yeah but when they had 21 seats in 1997, they went down to 12 seats in the 2000 election.

1997 Election results

2000 Election results


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NP
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posted 07 November 2001 09:14 PM      Profile for NP   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
JCL: That would be 13
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Sine Ziegler
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posted 07 November 2001 09:43 PM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I have to agree with Marc on this one - call it Calgary group think, I don't care.

As with her hair remarks, I LAUGHED SO HARD! Hats off to Alexa for getting constant media exposure to increase awareness of the party and the issues surrounding the House.

Here is what Alexa and Chretien said on tuesday.

Here's the actual text that I copied off another posting board that is on the same topic:


Ms. Alexa McDonough (Halifax, NDP): Mr. Speaker, my question is for the trade minister as well. The softwood lumber crisis has already cost 16,000 jobs in British Columbia alone. Today Tembec has announced the second mill closing in a week.

The trade minister rants and raves a lot, he shakes his hair a lot, but the question is whether the government is prepared to back its rhetoric with action. Is this trade minister prepared to pull our energy trade from the table and turn out the lights in California?


Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I do not like these sexist statements. Indeed the minister has been working extremely well for a long time to make sure that we find an adequate solution to this problem.


Ms. Alexa McDonough (Halifax, NDP): Mr. Speaker, if I had a head of hair like that I would shake it a lot too. Let me say, on a very serious note, that Americans are playing games with Canada, games in which the rules change to suit their needs. Canadians want to know whether the Prime Minister is playing games.

Let the Prime Minister today clarify his comments. Is he really ready this winter to pull our energy trade and let the Americans burn wood?


Right Hon. Jean Chrétien (Prime Minister, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, some do not have long hair and shake it a lot, as is the case with the leader of the Conservative Party, who will be up soon.

I just want to say that I made it clear in the House of Commons that when we signed the free trade agreement, it was not a partial free trade agreement that was signed with them. It was a free trade agreement where in part we were able to sell softwood lumber to the United States. That is what we want to do and what we will achieve--


The Speaker: The right hon. member for Calgary Centre.

[ November 08, 2001: Message edited by: Sine Ziegler ]


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meades
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posted 08 November 2001 06:06 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Has anyone else noticed that overall, Alexa is getting a bit, shall we say, fiestier (sp?) ?

Remember when she made fun of Lawrence MacAuley, the Soliciter General, last week?

" 'Gee, look at what a great job I'm doing' D'uh!!!"

I laugh my ass off every time I see that clip!


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Michelle
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posted 08 November 2001 08:14 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Actually, Alexa made fun of Pierre Pettigrew's hair in the House yesterday, DURING question period.... on her LEAD question!

Interesting, when you consider her moral outrage just yesterday or the day before during the scrum when asked to comment on Chretien's nasty slur about Joe Clark's shaking hands.


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Slick Willy
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posted 08 November 2001 08:27 PM      Profile for Slick Willy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
And how many billions of dollars a year do we as tax payers give up so that these people can stand in question period and snipe about their hair?
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posted 08 November 2001 10:27 PM      Profile for saskzen     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I like her too. After all, when one has nothing important to say, might as well say it with a smile!
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N.R.KISSED
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posted 08 November 2001 11:28 PM      Profile for N.R.KISSED     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I assume you do a lot of smiling then saskzen.
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JCL
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posted 08 November 2001 11:47 PM      Profile for JCL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh well. Alexa and Jerry Seinfeld have something in common. They talk about nothing. And in Seinfeld's case, his stuff on nothing is hilarious.
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saskzen
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posted 11 November 2001 12:32 AM      Profile for saskzen     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
WOW! An actual correct comment! I'm impressed. And I do smile ALL the time, but it's not because of politics.
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meades
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posted 11 November 2001 04:24 AM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Is it just me, or are these two just a couple of windbags?

They like to joke about Alexa a lot, but when it actually comes to debate, saskez runs and hides so that we all won't notice how blindingly ignorant he is. JCL does debate, so I don't have any real problem with him. But please, JCL, enlighten us about Alexa? Show us the evil of our backwards ways, will you?


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skdadl
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posted 11 November 2001 09:07 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
saskzen is a he? Really? Gee, I'm going to have to rethink things ... How can we be sure?
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Marc
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posted 11 November 2001 01:23 PM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Check his profile
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Pimji
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posted 11 November 2001 01:37 PM      Profile for Pimji   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I'm surprised he keeps bothering to post after the double portions of humble pie he's been dining on. JCL must be getting close to choking on a slice by now.
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rasmus
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posted 11 November 2001 03:09 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
As for Svend, I highly doubt the Socialist Caucus would like to see him as leader.
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rasmus
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posted 11 November 2001 03:10 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Ewps. Wrong thread.
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Pimji
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posted 11 November 2001 03:37 PM      Profile for Pimji   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It is very refreshing to listen to the NDP postion on the "war on terrorism". I must admit that Alex is doing a fantastic job of articulating my feelings and views exactly.
As for the people who feel totally offended by the NDP position all I can say is that this is democracy in action. Somebody has to hold this stance. Just as I disagree with the conservative position and policy. I respect without a doubt their need to speak.
Thank You Alexa and NDP.

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Gir Draxon
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posted 27 November 2003 06:10 AM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Bump
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vickyinottawa
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posted 27 November 2003 10:39 AM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
curious as to why you bumped this, Gir. Do you have a secret crush on Alexa???
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Gir Draxon
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posted 27 November 2003 02:02 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by vickyinottawa:
curious as to why you bumped this, Gir. Do you have a secret crush on Alexa???

1) Just because its an old thread I found while looking for something else
2) Interesting to compare Alexa to Jack
3) Sorry vicky, but Alexa is generations too old for me


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Tackaberry
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posted 27 November 2003 03:06 PM      Profile for Tackaberry   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I liked Alexa too. the strategy they planned for her didnt fit her style, hence the troubles. You develop strategy for the leader and the leader's strengths and weaknesses, not the other way around.
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Rufus Polson
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posted 27 November 2003 03:20 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
And maybe sometimes the leader should help develop the strategy. I know, it's an old fashioned idea. But Layton shows signs of doing that, I think. And if you're going to have leaders, they might have some ideas about what works for them, what got them to being the leader in the first place. It may be that what got in Alexa's way was a failure to take charge of the strategists and imagemakers.
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DrConway
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posted 27 November 2003 11:26 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I agree. Jack Layton strikes me as being a better "natural" than Alexa McDonough. Not that she didn't try hard - she certainly did - but there was something that just didn't "fit". I think Audrey McLaughlin seemed more comfortable at the leaders' debates than Alexa did, in point of fact, though my memory is a bit dimmed by a decade.
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Marc
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posted 27 November 2003 11:42 PM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Whoa...flashback.

I agree that Alexa was not the best leader the NDP has ever had. However, the odds were pretty stacked against her...a divided, demoralized party with a deep debt and no party status after the 93 election, the Basil factor, and in the 2000 election she faced the Stockwell Day "threat" and had a hastily prepared campaign.

She led the party to 21 seats in 1997, she built a base in Atlantic Canada, and she guided the NDP through September 11th, the Afghanistan conflict and set us down the road to fighting against the Iraq War. She is a classy lady and a great Foreign Affairs Critic.


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LukeVanc
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posted 28 November 2003 09:24 PM      Profile for LukeVanc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
If Alexa was still the leader of the NDP today, I would not be a member.

There's a reason why the membership has more than doubled since her departure.

That's all I have to say.


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Marc
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posted 28 November 2003 11:08 PM      Profile for Marc     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
What did Alexa ever do to you?
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Nam
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posted 01 December 2003 04:43 PM      Profile for Nam     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
What the hell is the "Basil factor"????
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clearview
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posted 01 December 2003 04:52 PM      Profile for clearview     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Nam:
What the hell is the "Basil factor"????

Buzz Hargrove, President of the CAW
(I'm guessing)


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posted 01 December 2003 04:57 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Basil! Basil Fawlty!
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